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spanky Post Whore FTP Server Offline Posts: 1540 Detroit-ish Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #15 - Dec 14^th, 2007 at 3:50pm Oh my God! You killed Big Bird. You bastard!
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X Post Whore FTP Server Offline Truth Is Treason, In The Empire Of Lies Posts: 3903 Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #16 - Dec 14^th, 2007 at 3:52pm I know this is waaay off topic but did anyone just love Snuffleupagus? I mean he was so laid back and smart...kinda like Eyore from Pooh. I don't know...that might be just me.
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b0b GeekCrew Administrator FTP Server Offline The revolution will not be televised. Posts: 7464 Battle Creek, Michigan Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #17 - Dec 14^th, 2007 at 4:17pm X wrote on Dec 14^th, 2007 at 3:52pm: I know this is waaay off topic but did anyone just love Snuffleupagus? I think it's time to step away from the pipe, Captain Sulu. -b0b (...BAM!)
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X Post Whore FTP Server Offline Truth Is Treason, In The Empire Of Lies Posts: 3903 Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #18 - Dec 16^th, 2007 at 1:16am Well he finally did it as of 1:12-ish AM! That still means another few time zones and 23-ish hours of a donating day is just icing on the cake baby!
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Stick Wootzor von Leetenhaxor FTP Server Offline Stick is back Posts: 501 Michgan Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #19 - Dec 18^th, 2007 at 9:08am Who is that guy?
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b0b GeekCrew Administrator FTP Server Offline The revolution will not be televised. Posts: 7464 Battle Creek, Michigan Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #20 - Dec 18^th, 2007 at 9:49am Ooh, burn! -b0b (...snickers.)
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X Post Whore FTP Server Offline Truth Is Treason, In The Empire Of Lies Posts: 3903 Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #21 - Dec 18^th, 2007 at 12:36pm Sadness Go drown in a fire! X
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Re: Presidential Candidates
Reply #22 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 2:14am

Ron Paul on the Glenn Beck Show for a full hr talking about every different type of subject and more than just sound bytes. Take the time and watch if you're undecided:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pz6AKU5lSqc - Part 1

PT.2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jujk3YOUSpE

PT.3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=f7fRWsqLoGA

PT.4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=pz6AKU5lSqc

PT.5 http://youtube.com/watch?v=pJIQCG1g564

PT.6 http://youtube.com/watch?v=6YUukbFgQcY

PT.7 http://youtube.com/watch?v=SGQJZhiEAXE

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X Post Whore FTP Server Offline Truth Is Treason, In The Empire Of Lies Posts: 3903 Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #24 - Dec 27^th, 2007 at 3:40pm http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/271207_crackpot.htm Check this out...I've never seen anyone since Bush who had so many sentence just plain wrong in the same topic. If this guy built anymore straw men arguments he'd be the Scarecrow. X
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Reply #25 - Dec 27^th, 2007 at 11:23pm

In all honestly, I'm not partial to any of the candidates on either side. No one in the Democratic party really has what I would consider a "solid" plan, and most of the Republican party is moderate enough for me to vote for and not feel gross about later on.

Initially I was all about Hillary Clinton, but she has A LOT to prove or correct and I haven't seen it yet. Obama doesn't have enough experience, Edwards pisses me off and I don't fully agree with everything Ron Paul says. Huckabee almost had me at Chuck Norris.

So essentially, what I'm saying is, um.......

......yeah, no.

I have no idea this time who I actually am for.

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Reply #26 - Dec 28^th, 2007 at 1:41am

If you're looking for someone who you agree with completely on...you might have to wait until you're old enough to run yourself.

I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says but his message is one I can get on board with. We need to get out of other countries affairs and we need to drastically limit the size of the federal govt. and have them leave me alone. I only see that message being touted by one man...Ron Paul.

Everyone else is "stay the course" or "hey you know how you gave us power last election to do something...well we dropped the ball...but it was really your fault so we want you to elect us to what's suppose to be the smallest branch of the federal govt and let us increase the size of it even more! That's the only way you won't kill yourself".

So in a nut shell...you're going to have to decided pretty soon here Cait, you'll just have to figure out who's the closest fit for you. Maybe 3rd party?

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Cait GeekCrew Hax0r Offline Winter is Coming. Giggity. Posts: 380 Pittsburgh, PA Gender:	Re: Presidential Candidates Reply #27 - Dec 28^th, 2007 at 2:47pm a 3rd party vote is a wasted vote. like voting for Nader. really....it's probably worse than NOT voting at all.
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Reply #28 - Dec 28^th, 2007 at 3:03pm

That's the type of attitude that is absolutely destroying our country.

The only wasted vote is a vote not cast. If you're not allowed or willing to vote for anyone you want to in this country than what's the point of holding general elections? Why not just let the members of Congress decide who's President.

We're told to believe in the left/right paradigm. Yet what if someone were to run as a democrat claiming to be the next Hitler and someone were to run as a republican claiming to be the next Stalin? Would you just say..."Well it's the lesser of 2 evils to vote for...". Meanwhile a person who gets no national coverage embodies a good majority of your beliefs is running and willing not to slaughter 30 million people.

3rd parties have been screwed over for a while now...yet you see Nader get 5% of the total votes in the last election? What if the other apethitic voters decided to cast their votes for him? What would happen if he would have won? Would you then claim that a 3rd party is a wasted vote? A long time ago...this country was a multipartied system..federalists, wig, republican, etc. It's only in the 20th century you have the big shift for two poles...and look at these supposed polar opposites in practice rather than ideology...where's the difference.

So really you should be saying voting 2nd party is a waste vote...since there is only one party anymore...big government without respect for the people.

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Reply #29 - Dec 28^th, 2007 at 3:44pm

Cait wrote on Dec 28^th, 2007 at 2:47pm:

a 3rd party vote is a wasted vote.

I call bull.

Voting for a third party is most certainly not a wasted vote. If you only ever vote for a Republican or a Democrat, there will never ever be another choice. Like all areas of life, political change has to start somewhere, and it might be with an unelectable candidate like Nader. If the Libertarians and other third parties get the attention they rightly deserve, it might be enough to force the Democrats and Republicans to start pushing some viable candidates instead of the moderate douchebags that have been dominating the scene for the past two decades.

Parties receive financial support from the .gov based on the percentage of the popular vote their candidates receive in the primary and final elections. If people completely dismiss third party candidates because of their lack of perceived support, the party risks losing out on federal funding for future campaigns, leading to a vicious and unending cycle.

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(...thinks Fed.Gov campaign financing is crap, but that's a topic for another thread.)

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