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Reply #945 - Apr 13
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Except for women...that's why there's only one in the "sport".
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You guys know I've been ranting about the housing situation for awhile, but I wanted to post another story about just how crazy the mortgage market has been lately...
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When Alberto and Rosa Ramirez began looking for a home, they never imagined that 18 months later they would personify a national real estate crisis. It's not that they bought a house with walls crawling with toxic mold or inherited an insane neighbor next door or, even, God forbid, that they didn't buy at all. They bought, and they love their slice of the American Dream.
"It's all very nice and beautiful," Rosa tells me through a translator. "The neighborhood is very peaceful. The problem is not with the house at all. It's the price of the house."
Indeed, in a different era (when housing prices were lower), their story might have been one of those bootstrap tales about homeownership transforming immigrant lives. The husband and wife work as strawberry pickers in the fields around Watsonville, and each earns about $300 a week. They have three children. Not only did they dream the impossible dream, they managed to finance it.
It all began when they were talking to another family about escaping their subsidized apartments and getting a real house. The other couple -- Jesus Martinez and his wife, who also have three children -- work as mushroom farmers, earning about $500 a week each when there is work. The two couples decided to pool their resources and begin house-hunting. Given their total income, they estimated that they could afford payments of $3,000 a month. They spotted an ad in the local magazine La Ganga for Maria Avila of Rancho Grande Real Estate and called her.
"We wanted to live in Watsonville," says Rosa. "But [the real estate agent] said the houses there were older and more expensive." One of the first homes they were shown was a "new" four-bedroom, two-bath house in Hollister for $720,000. When the Ramirez's heard the price, they worried that they couldn't afford it.
But the couple says that their real estate agent and broker reassured them it was possible. "The monthly payment was supposed to be $4,800, but then after we bought it, it went up to $5,378," says Rosa, speaking of their zero-down mortgage with a one-month "teaser rate." "Our agent told us that once we refinanced, we could get the payments down to $3,000 or less." For a number of months Avila, who arranged for the loan with New Century Mortgage, paid the difference between what the buyers had said they could afford -- $3000 -- and the loan payment. According to the buyers, this arrangement was supposed to carry them over until the group refinanced. (Maria Avila and Rancho Grande Real Estate declined to comment for this story.) Earlier this month, New Century Mortgage, the nation's second largest sub prime mortgage lender, filed for bankruptcy. It's also facing a federal criminal probe.
The money-saving refinance failed to materialize. (According to my analysis of interest rates during the period, hitting the magic $3000 number would have been virtually impossible under any circumstances. An interest-only $720,000 loan at a miraculous 5 percent interest rate (15-year fixed) yields a $3,000 mortgage, but such low mortgage rates weren't available to anyone much less a laborer with a low income, no down payment and no other assets. Plus that doesn't count another $750 a month in taxes and insurance.) Instead, the two families stayed on the same loan, sometimes sacrificing basic necessities, other times borrowing more. "It was very difficult," Rosa says. "Sometimes we would eat less, and we took out personal loans from Bank of America."
Last November, they stopped paying their mortgage and sought the advice of Pamela Simmons, an attorney who specializes in predatory-lending cases. Upon reviewing the loan documents, they discovered more bad news. Despite the intention that both couples would be buying the home together (they'd submitted income information for three of the four buyers), the loan was made exclusively in Alberto Ramirez's name. This meant that he was solely responsible for the debt. The couple also discovered that the home wasn't nearly as valuable as they thought: When a new real estate agent valued the house, he told them he'd list it between $560,000 and $580,000. They have sent a letter of demand to Rancho Grande, claiming the brokers breached their fiduciary duties by selling Alberto Ramirez a home he couldn't afford.
How did a strawberry picker earning $15,000 a year qualify for a loan of $720,000? The answer, say the experts, lies in a lending industry that got too innovative for its own good.
Last week, a coalition of civil rights groups, including the National Council of La Raza, the Center for Responsible Lending and the NAACP, called for a national six-month moratorium on foreclosures -- after observing that the subprime crisis disproportionately affected minorities. "The point is to just take time out and provide services to families who might be vulnerable as a result of payment shock," says Janice Bowdler, senior policy analyst for housing for the National Council of La Raza, referring to the hybrid loans that begin with low fixed rates, then jump to adjustable-rate mortgages. Bowdler adds that they are hoping many homeowners can avoid foreclosure by taking advantage of such financial tools as changing their current loan terms or refinancing.
According to NCLR, "[f]orty percent of Latino families and over half of African Americans who receive home loans get higher-cost mortgages, predominately subprime loans." In a study released last month, an analysis of 2005 federal mortgage lending data of large subprime originators in six metropolitan areas, African American borrowers were 3.8 times and Latino borrowers were 3.6 times more likely to receive a higher-cost home purchase loan than white borrowers. One argument is that these groups naturally get subprime loans because they have bad credit or are buying in riskier neighborhoods. But according Fannie Mae, there is an enormous lending disparity across the nation: One study found that 50 percent of all borrowers qualified for a cheaper loan than the one they eventually got. They even discovered that female buyers tend to get higher-cost loans than male counterparts.
But for Rosa and Alberto Ramirez and many others like them, a foreclosure moratorium won't help. It's not that a better loan would have remedied their situation -- it's that they can't afford the home they bought. "Many of my clients can't afford their homes in any circumstance," says Simmons. "I have a dishwasher who bought a house and never even moved in. The moment he saw the first payment, he knew he couldn't afford it."
Indeed, the Ramirez family exemplifies a type of new buyer that didn't exist a decade ago. Neither Rosa nor Alberto speaks English, so they were completely dependent on their real estate agent and their mortgage broker for advice and to translate and educate them about the process. "In other business transactions in California, if you negotiate in Spanish, you are required to provide translations of all documents. But real estate contracts are exempt from this," explains Simmons, who currently has 30 active cases and sees her potential caseload growing by the day. "There's a large increase in the amount of borrowers reaching out to lawyers with subprime loans. I've gotten to the point that I have to say to a lot of people, 'I can't represent you, I have too many clients.' It's astounding to me. I neither expected nor have I seen anything like this in all the years I've practiced law. It's as if in real estate it's gone back to the Wild, Wild West of San Francisco in the 1800s."
Simmons says that she's seeing more non-English-speaking clients -- mostly Latinos but also one Filipino -- who had little understanding of what they had gotten themselves into. "I meet with a lot of clients who have negative-amortization loans who are stunned to find out that their payments are not even covering their full interest," she says, mentioning a couple she met that morning whose adjustable negative-amortization payments had risen beyond their ability to pay. "The wife is crying -- it was awful. I had the very sad task of explaining to them that they cannot afford their home. Forget about actually paying off their home in 30 years -- they can't afford the interest-only payments."
Maeve Brown, co-founder of Oakland-based Housing and Economic Rights Advocates, says most of her clients fall into one of two categories. There are the non-English-speaking first-time home buyers who "buy homes that they can't afford, with mortgage brokers raking in the fees and an added twist that the homes are often substandard and they are appraised above their actual value." The other kind of cases involves seniors -- often African American -- who are persuaded to refinance their homes with more expensive adjustable-rate loans that carry steep prepayment penalties.
"Buying a housing is a complex process," says Brown. "I think we've been sold a bill of goods about the American dream: that it's fast, it's fun, it's easy. Well, it's not easy -- it's really complex. The ideal would be that every buyer retain their own counsel to protect them from their realtor and their broker, because though there are great agents and brokers out there and they have a fiduciary duty to represent your best interests, in the end, it's a contract and you're on the hook for it."
Regarding subprime lenders going bankrupt, she has "no sympathy whatsoever. They created this monster."
You and I are going to end up holding the bag for all of this. $720,000 on a $15,000 salary? Ridiculous!
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Reply #947 - Apr 18
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Court Backs Ban on Abortion Procedure
Apr 18 12:34 PM US/Eastern
By MARK SHERMAN
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WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court upheld the nationwide ban on a controversial abortion procedure Wednesday, handing abortion opponents the long- awaited victory they expected from a more conservative bench.
The 5-4 ruling said the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act that Congress passed and President Bush signed into law in 2003 does not violate a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
The opponents of the act "have not demonstrated that the Act would be unconstitutional in a large fraction of relevant cases," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion.
The administration defended the law as drawing a bright line between abortion and infanticide.
The decision pitted the court's conservatives against its liberals, with President Bush's two appointees, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, siding with the majority.
Justices Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia also were in the majority.
It was the first time the court banned a specific procedure in a case over how—not whether—to perform an abortion.
Abortion rights groups as well as the leading association of obstetricians and gynecologists have said the procedure sometimes is the safest for a woman. They also said that such a ruling could threaten most abortions after 12 weeks of pregnancy, although government lawyers and others who favor the ban said there are alternate, more widely used procedures that remain legal.
The outcome is likely to spur efforts at the state level to place more restrictions on abortions.
"I applaud the Court for its ruling today, and my hope is that it sets the stage for further progress in the fight to ensure our nation's laws respect the sanctity of unborn human life," said Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, Republican leader in the House of Representatives.
Said Eve Gartner of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America: "This ruling flies in the face of 30 years of Supreme Court precedent and the best interest of women's health and safety. ... This ruling tells women that politicians, not doctors, will make their health care decisions for them." She had argued that point before the justices.
More than 1 million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 percent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling.
Six federal courts have said the law that was in focus Wednesday is an impermissible restriction on a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
The law bans a method of ending a pregnancy, rather than limiting when an abortion can be performed.
"Today's decision is alarming," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote in dissent. She said the ruling "refuses to take ... seriously" previous Supreme Court decisions on abortion.
Ginsburg said the latest decision "tolerates, indeed applauds, federal intervention to ban nationwide a procedure found necessary and proper in certain cases by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists."
Ginsburg said that for the first time since the court established a woman's right to an abortion in 1973, "the court blesses a prohibition with no exception safeguarding a woman's health."
She was joined by Justices Stephen Breyer, David Souter and John Paul Stevens.
The procedure at issue involves partially removing the fetus intact from a woman's uterus, then crushing or cutting its skull to complete the abortion.
Abortion opponents say the law will not reduce the number of abortions performed because an alternate method—dismembering the fetus in the uterus—is available and, indeed, much more common.
In 2000, the court with key differences in its membership struck down a state ban on partial-birth abortions. Writing for a 5-4 majority at that time, Justice Breyer said the law imposed an undue burden on a woman's right to make an abortion decision.
The Republican-controlled Congress responded in 2003 by passing a federal law that asserted the procedure is gruesome, inhumane and never medically necessary to preserve a woman's health. That statement was designed to overcome the health exception to restrictions that the court has demanded in abortion cases.
But federal judges in California, Nebraska and New York said the law was unconstitutional, and three appellate courts agreed. The Supreme Court accepted appeals from California and Nebraska, setting up Wednesday's ruling.
Kennedy's dissent in 2000 was so strong that few court watchers expected him to take a different view of the current case.
Kennedy acknowledged continuing disagreement about the procedure within the medical community. In the past, courts have cited that uncertainty as a reason to allow the disputed procedure.
But Kennedy said, "The law need not give abortion doctors unfettered choice in the course of their medical practice."
He said the more common abortion method, involving dismemberment, is beyond the reach of the federal ban.
While the court upheld the law against a broad attack on its constitutionality, Kennedy said the court could entertain a challenge in which a doctor found it necessary to perform the banned procedure on a patient suffering certain medical complications.
Doctors most often refer to the procedure as a dilation and extraction or an intact dilation and evacuation abortion.
The law allows the procedure to be performed when a woman's life is in jeopardy.
The cases are Gonzales v. Carhart, 05-380, and Gonzales v. Planned Parenthood, 05-1382.
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Reply #948 - Apr 18
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The opponents of the act "have not demonstrated that the Act would be unconstitutional in a large fraction of relevant cases," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion.
I'm sorry I thought if something was unconstitutional in ANY case then it shouldn't be in our law system.
I guess I'm wrong. Apparently spitting in the face of our founding fathers is ok as long as its not the majority doing it.
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Reply #949 - Apr 18
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Exactly Wes! Good job at understanding that we are not a democracy but a republic. The difference?
Democracy:
51% of the people - We like blue
49% of the rest - We don't.
51% of the people - We're going to make it illegal to think that way.
49% of the rest - You can't do that!
51% of the people - We're the majority so we can!
Republic (under a constitution):
99.9% of the people - We don't like .1% of the people and we want to kill them!
0.1% of the rest - You can't do that!
99.9% of the people - (After reading the constitution) Dang! They're right!
Now just think what Bush is saying when he says he wants to spread Democracy to the world. I am very, very, VERY glad I live in a republic. We just have to realize and keep in check that when people say "we are a democracy" that we call them on it and make sure they DON'T make up into one!
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Reply #950 - Apr 19
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http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/18/video-carolyn-mccarthy-doesnt-understand-h...
Now some of you might say...I agree with gun regulation. Ok, we can debate the pros and cons of that. However if you're going to even enter the debate/conversation shouldn't you know at least the terminology or what you want to ban? If you said yes...let me ask you another question. If you write the laws on gun regulation and you're deciding what to allow and what to prohibit...don't you think you should know the terminology even more? If you answered yes...you can't be in Congress.
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Reply #951 - Apr 20
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Venus Ramey has earned lots of fame in her 82 years.
She was Miss America 1944 and later a candidate for Cincinnati City Council and worked to save Over-the-Rhine's historic buildings. She performed on Broadway and in movies.
Now, though, she's in the news for another reason.
After confronting a man she said was stealing from her Kentucky farm, Ramey pulled out a gun and shot out a tire on his truck so he couldn't leave, allowing police to arrest him and two others.
"He was probably wetting his pants," Ramey said Thursday from her home in Waynesburg, about 140 miles south of Cincinnati.
Ramey was on her Lincoln County farm last week - "Friday the 13th, apropos date, isn't it?" she noted Thursday - feeding a horse when she saw her dog run to a nearby building where she stores old steel-shaping machines, lathes and other equipment.
"This stuff is over 100 years old," she said.
For some time, thieves had been breaking into the building to steal the machines to sell for scrap. She hadn't been able to catch anyone in the act until last week.
She drove over to the building and blocked the truck sitting there.
When she asked a man what he was doing, he replied "scrapping," and said he would leave.
"I said, 'Oh, no you won't,' and I shot their tires so they couldn't leave," Ramey said.
She had to balance on her walking stick as she pulled out a snub-nosed .38-caliber handgun.
"I didn't even think twice. I just went and did it. If they'd even dared come close to me, they'd be 6 feet under by now."
Ramey then tried to flag down people driving by. When one stopped, she asked them to call 911. Eventually, three people were arrested - one at the scene and two others walking on a nearby road.
"They've been stealing from me for years. Those good-for-nothing slobs," she said.
Now that's a real American patriot.
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I found her picture. By the way, I found an interesting tidbit about Mrs. Ramey. Her picture was on a B-17 that flew 68 missions over Germany.
Here's a picture of her from the 40's.
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Reply #953 - Apr 20
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Pope revises 'limbo' for babies
By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
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Pope Benedict XVI has revised traditional Roman Catholic teaching on so-called "limbo," approving a church report released Friday that said there was reason to hope that babies who die without baptism can go to heaven.
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Benedict approved the findings of the International Theological Commission, which issued its long-awaited document on limbo on Origins, the documentary service of Catholic News Service, the news agency of the American Bishop's Conference.
"We can say we have many reasons to hope that there is salvation for these babies," the Rev. Luis Ladaria, a Jesuit who is the commission's secretary-general, told The Associated Press.
Although Catholics have long believed that children who die without being baptized are with original sin and thus excluded from heaven, the church has no formal doctrine on the matter. Theologians have long taught, however, that such children enjoy an eternal state of perfect natural happiness, a state commonly called limbo, but without being in communion with God.
Pope John Paul II and Benedict had urged further study on limbo, in part because of "the pressing pastoral needs" sparked by the increase in abortion and the growing number of children who die without being baptized, the report said.
In the document, the commission said there were "serious theological and liturgical grounds for hope that unbaptized infants who die will be saved and brought into eternal happiness."
It stressed, however, that "these are reasons for prayerful hope, rather than grounds for sure knowledge."
Ladaria said no one could know for certain what becomes of unbaptized babies since Scripture is largely silent on the matter.
Catholic parents should still baptize their children, as that sacrament is the way salvation is revealed, the document said.
The International Theological Commission is a body of
Vatican-appointed theologians who advise the pope and the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Benedict headed the Congregation for two decades before becoming pope in 2005.
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Again, this is why Catholics and esp the Vatican are morons. Where do you go for answers on theology? Oh you go to a group of men who decide on a fictious place that is described no where in the Bible and to find out if babies go there you refer to these same men...and not...ya know...God's Word! It seems to me that as we get closer and closer to the end times that the Catholic church will turn into the setting for the one world religion.
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That's interesting, Stewie. I wonder how they explain "perfect natural happiness" without "communion with God." The separation from God is very "unnatural" and is the source for all our unhappiness.
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Reply #955 - Apr 20
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Offensive Couch Label Traced to China
By CHARMAINE NORONHA
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TORONTO — Doris Moore was shocked when her new couch was delivered to her home with a label that used a racial slur to describe the dark brown shade of the upholstery.
The situation was even more alarming for Moore because it was her 7-year-old daughter who pointed out "n----- brown" on the tag.
"My daughter saw the label and she knew the color brown, but didn't know what the other word meant. She asked, 'Mommy, what color is that?' I was stunned. I didn't know what to say. I never thought that's how she'd learn of that word," Moore said.
The mother complained to the furniture store, which blamed the supplier, who pointed to a computer problem as the source of the derogatory label
Kingsoft Corp., a Chinese software company, acknowledged its translation program was at fault and said it was a regrettable error.
"I know this is a very bad word," Huang Luoyi, a product manager for the Beijing-based company's translation software, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.
He explained that when the Chinese characters for "dark brown" are typed into an older version of its Chinese-English translation software, the offensive N-word description comes up.
"We got the definition from a Chinese-English dictionary. We've been using the dictionary for 10 years. Maybe the dictionary was updated, but we probably didn't follow suit," he said.
Moore, who is black, said Kingsoft's acknowledgment of a mistake doesn't make her feel better.
"They should know what they are typing, even if it is a software error," she said. "In order for something to come into the country, don't they read it first? Doesn't the manufacturer? The supplier?"
Romesh Vanaik, owner of Vanaik Furniture where Moore bought the sofa, said it has been a best seller. He said he checked his stock but found no other couch with the offensive label.
He added that he had not known the meaning of the N-word.
"It's amazing. I've been here since 1972 and I never knew the meaning of this word," said Vanaik, a native of India.
His supplier, Paul Kumar of Cosmos Furniture in Toronto, denied responsibility and refused to give the name of the couch's Chinese manufacturer.
"It's not my fault. It's not the manufacturers' fault," he said, adding that Kingsoft was to blame.
Huang said Kingsoft has worked to correct the translation error. In the 2007 version, typing "dark brown" in Chinese does not produce the racial slur in English. But if the offensive term is typed in English, the Chinese translation is "dark brown," he said.
Moore is consulting with a lawyer and wants compensation. Last week, she filed a report with the Ontario Human Rights Commission.
Commission spokeswoman Afroze Edwards said the case is in the initial stages and could take six months to two years to resolve.
Moore, 30, has three young children, and said the issue has taken a toll on her family.
"Something more has to be done. We don't just need a personal apology, but someone needs to own up to where these labels were made, and someone needs to apologize to all people of color," Moore said. "I had friends over from St. Lucia yesterday and they wouldn't sit on the couch."
Emphasis mine. I think I'm going to nominate this for the "Gold Digger of the Year Award" for 2007.
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That offends me...that'll be 2.4 million dollars sir!
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A Christian student has been punished by his Michigan high school for demonstrating opposition to a school event celebrating the homosexual lifestyle. The boy's father, a pastor, says he's frustrated the rights of Christian students are being constantly trampled on campus.
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Oakridge High School in Muskegon, Michigan, is one of many schools across the U.S. that took part in Wednesday's "National Day of Silence" -- an event promoted heavily by homosexual activist groups, which view it as a day to protest alleged discrimination faced by students who identify as "gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender (GLBT)." At Oakridge High, duct tape was passed out for students to wear over their lips as a way to show solidarity with homosexual students who are purportedly suffering in silence.
John Gardner is pastor of Holton Family Life Worship Center in Holton, a community of approximately 2,500 about 17 miles northeast of Muskegon. Pastor Gardner says his 15-year-old son David, a student at Oakridge High, was suspended for a day by the school because he wrote with a black marker "I'm straight" on a piece of duct tape and attached it to his shirt. He explains that David donned the message to voice his objection to the school's participation in the Day of Silence.
"They asked him, at that point, to take it off," Gardner says, "and David [asked] why do the rest of the kids in the class get to wear theirs and I can't wear something about what I believe?" According to the pastor, the teacher then instructed David to remove the message or he would be "kicked out" of class. "And he said, 'Well then, you'll have to kick me out' -- and that's what they did," says David's father.
Pastor Gardner says every week he preaches that the day is coming when opposition to homosexuality will be banned, but he never imagined it would happen in his small Michigan town. He says a "liberal mentality" is being pushed in public schools to the extent many children are being indoctrinated with it.
It is time, says the Michigan pastor, for Christians to step to the forefront. "I tell you, I fear what's coming in the next ten years for the Church and the schools -- and children, in general -- if the Christians don't come out of their closet," he says. "The gays and lesbians want to come out of their closet; I think the Church needs to come out of their closet and stand up and be the Body of Christ that God has told it to be."
Gardner states he has not decided whether to take legal action against Oakridge High School.
While this story is odd because I don't see how you can punish someone for being loud and proud in their sexual orientation...right?
But what' more odd is that the site I got this from had a poll question "Should Bill Maher be prosecuted for allegedly breaking into the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum?" I'm look for more info but that seems just odd.
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Well here's the story I was referring to from above. Weird all around. However Bill M. is so hard up for people to listen to him I find myself feeling sorry for him. I think he just needs a big hug. I might have to sneak into his building and give him one
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Bill Maher evades security at Creation Museum
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The group Answers in Genesis (AIG) says comedian Bill Maher of HBO recently made an unannounced visit to its new Creation Museum in an effort to "mock Christians and creationists." According to a ministry spokesman, Maher chose to circumvent security measures in order to obtain an interview with AIG founder Ken Ham.
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A production company called "First Word Productions" told Answers in Genesis it was doing a documentary on world religions and wanted to showcase AIG's Creation Museum near Cincinnati, which will open to the public May 28. The film crew spent about three hours walking through the museum with Ken Ham, asking him questions along the way. They then requested a sit-down interview with Ham in his office.
As the crew began recording, one of them propped open a secure back door and let comedian Bill Maher in to take over the interview. AIG co-founder Mark Looy, who the film crew distracted so Maher could sneak in, says Ham was not aware of who Maher was.
"Ken said he looked vaguely familiar, but then he started asking questions about creation evolution, which Ken handled very, very well," notes Looy; "and then before you know it, Bill Maher is asking questions outside of our core specialty of the Book of Genesis."
Such as why would God allow so much suffering and death in the Old Testament, Looy continues. "Which Ken can answer easily enough," he says, "but [Maher's] intent was to come here and mock Christians and creationists in particular."
According to Looy, when he asked Maher why he came in the back door and did not check in with security, the comedian said, "Sorry for the misunderstanding."
Looy says in the midst of media exposure leading up to the museum's opening, Maher's visit was a wake-up call for the security staff. "We're very grateful for the tremendous media coverage we've received from the major media outlets," says the ministry co-founder, "and in most cases, it's actually been fair and balanced -- especially if the media can come here and see the quality of the Creation Museum."
Maher's appearance, however, has resulted in some consternation. "[W]hen a group like this sneaks into a building, bypasses our security, [and] goes through a secure door to get an interview with Ken Ham, that does concern us," Looy admits.
The AIG spokesman says footage the film crew took at the museum is not for Maher's Real Time program on HBO, but for a supposed documentary he is producing that may air on HBO. According to Looy, the film will likely be more of a "mockumentary" than a documentary.
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NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton finally dropped by Rutgers to meet with the school's women's basketball coach - but the players themselves skipped the half-hour meeting, citing their studies and Imus fatigue.
Clinton had been scheduled to meet with Scarlet Knight coach C. Vivian Stringer and an assistant, and possibly some of the players, Monday to talk with them about Don Imus' "nappy-headed ho" comments. But that sit-down was postponed due to weather and because the story seemed far less significant after the Virginia Tech killings.
"Many of the players were in study hall from eight to noon and some had finals," explained a Rutgers source who said the players were "tired" of all the attention. "These young women need to do their classes, and wrap their spring semester."
After meeting with Stringer Friday morning, Clinton addressed about 700 students and faculty on campus later in the day, praising the players and naming them one-by-one while criticizing "bigotry" against women. She never named Imus directly and made a point of saying her criticism wasn't intended to curtail free speech.
She urged the crowd to take a "Rutgers pledge," to say, "Enough is enough, when women or minorities or the powerless are marginalized or degraded."
Later, the former first lady traveled to Manhattan to address Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network Convention, where she ravaged President George W. Bush, particularly over Iraq.
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)is scheduled to appear before the group Saturday. Both have courted the controversial preacher who led the effort to oust Imus.
The reason why I posted this story other than the fact that the girls ditched Hillary for...ya know...something important (like classes) is this line.
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She urged the crowd to take a "Rutgers pledge," to say, "Enough is enough, when women or minorities or the powerless are marginalized or degraded."
Hmm can't make fun of women or minorities or the poor. So that only leaves the rich, white, and men to take the brunt of all jokes. Everyone can irrationally "marginalize and degrade" make fun of those people but God forbid someone makes fun of a black guy! Now we just need to get rid of the black comedians talking about black people and we'll finally be able to sit hand in hand singing camp songs.
What genius thought up "Rutgers pledge" lol. Morons.
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