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Middle East Conflict
Jun 30^th, 2006 at 1:39pm

Since talk of this region is kinda dispersed throughout the forum, heres a thread for anything related to the current troubles in the Middle East.

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&hn=34399

Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus

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Israel holds Khaled Mashal, the leader of Hamas' Syrian branch, responsible for the abduction of two Israeli soldiers and wants Syria to expel Palestinian leaders from the country.

Israel threatened to kill Hamas militants based in Damascus.

Al-Jazeera television said Public Security Minister Avi Dichter claimed they knew the locations of HAMAS and Islamic Jihad leaders in Syria and will not hesitate to kill them.

Things are heating up.

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Re: Middle East Conflict
Reply #1 - Jun 30^th, 2006 at 1:40pm

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19645805-2703,00.html

Oh and this one too.

Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies

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ISRAEL last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed.

The unprecedented warning was delivered to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in a letter as Israel debated a deal offered by Hamas to free Corporal Gilad Shalit.

It came as Israeli military officials readied a second invasion force for a huge offensive into Gaza.

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Re: Middle East Conflict
Reply #2 - Jun 30^th, 2006 at 3:11pm

It started out as a scuffle between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, but this is quickly turning into a full scale battle that will include Syria, and - by extension - Russia. Even though the Palestinians are the whipping boy of the Islamic Middle East, I have no doubt they're all itching for an excuse to get into a fight with Israel. Iran has no greater desire than to wipe Israel off the face of the planet.

I think we're marching quickly toward World War III. There are just too many stakeholders in the matter and too many events are lining up too quickly. I'm surprised the US, Britain, and other big countries aren't stepping in to try to slow things down a bit.

Regardless of what ends up happening over there, the world's economic markets are on their toes as it is. Oil is going to sky rocket if things hit a breaking point.

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Re: Middle East Conflict
Reply #3 - Jun 30^th, 2006 at 4:55pm

http://www.infolive.tv/index.php?chgLang=40
This is a great site for video updates on the situation. It even shows a few of the Qassam rockets being launched. Good stuff. Now for some pictures...

It appears the PA's Interior Ministry has added air conditioning to their headquarters.

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Re: Middle East Conflict
Reply #5 - Jun 30^th, 2006 at 11:35pm

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1EE826C3-F1DE-4527-956F-B00266ED3E0A.htm

Second soldier kidnapped.

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Palestinian fighters have kidnapped a second Israeli soldier and threatened to kill him unless Israel ends its military offensive in the Palestinian territories, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades announced overnight on Friday.

In a statement received by AFP in Gaza City, the armed group, loosely affiliated to the Fatah movement, called for "the end of the Israeli offensive" and "the lifting of the blockade" in the territories.

"If our demands are not met, the Al-Aqsa Brigades will kill the kidnapped soldier," the statement said, without giving any details.

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Re: Middle East Conflict
Reply #7 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 2:20pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060704/ts_nm/mideast1_dc_2;_ylt=ArddugNUo2ZWnDx12vr...

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GAZA (Reuters) -
Israel defied a Tuesday deadline set by Gaza militants for the release of Palestinian prisoners and warned Hamas leaders the "sky will fall on them" if an abducted Israeli soldier is harmed.

With Israeli tanks and infantry massing along the
Gaza Strip's northern border, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the campaign launched last week to free Corporal Gilad Shalit could turn into "a long war."

Goodness, does anyone else still believe this abduction was not a setup?

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Re: Middle East Conflict
Reply #8 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 2:35pm

I hope I don't wind up joining the Military before I plan on it and Involuntarily...that would just suck.

And speaking of Military, there was a guy today of my road race who carried a POW/MIA flag the whole 5 miles of the race. I hope it made people realize what today is about and how many gave up thier lives earning and protecting not only our freedom, but the freedom of many other countries as well.

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b0b GeekCrew Administrator FTP Server Offline The revolution will not be televised. Posts: 7464 Battle Creek, Michigan Gender:	Re: Middle East Conflict Reply #9 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 6:01pm MediaMaster wrote on Jul 4^th, 2006 at 2:20pm: Goodness, does anyone else still believe this abduction was not a setup? The PA has openly admitted to capturing Corporal Shalit. That fact is undisputed. If this was a "setup," the PA is just as much responsible for the conspiracy as Israel is. -b0b (...sees both sides of the coin.)
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Reply #10 - Jul 6^th, 2006 at 5:10pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060706/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians_494;_ylt=...

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Palestinian militants armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades battled Israeli helicopters and tanks Thursday in the bloodiest day since
Israel invaded Gaza over a soldier's capture. At least 20 Palestinians and one Israeli soldier died.

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"We are doing the utmost effort ... to avoid civilian casualties," said another military official, Brig. Gen. Ido Nehushtan. "Really, there is no other way of operating against terrorists who are operating inside their own civilian populations."

Maybe thats because its a civilian population standing up against an invasion, regardless of whether or not their government kidnapped a soldier. And of course anyone fighting American or Israeli aggression is a terrorist.

Insanity, pure instanity.

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Reply #11 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 2:31pm

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/732528.html
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Israel intends to arrest more senior Hamas figures in addition to the dozens of Palestinian lawmakers and ministers arrested in a predawn raid Thursday, the Justice Ministry said Thursday.

The detention of Hamas parliamentarians in the early hours of Thursday morning had been planned several weeks ago and received approval from Mazuz on Wednesday. The same day, Shin Bet Director Yuval Diskin presented Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with the list of Hamas officials slated for detention.

The detention of Hamas parliamentarians in the early hours of Thursday morning had been planned several weeks ago and received approval from Mazuz on Wednesday. The same day, Shin Bet Director Yuval Diskin presented Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with the list of Hamas officials slated for detention.

So i guess Isreal had this in mind for a while eh?

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Reply #13 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 4:43pm

yes that article was written on june 30th. Its an Israeli newspaper, I assume they got their info same as the press normally does.

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An IDF spokeswoman said the arrests were part of an operation against suspected terrorists, and were not "bargaining chips" for the release of abducted IDF soldier Corporal Gilad Shalit.

"They are not bargaining chips for the return of the soldier. It was simply an operation against a terrorist organization," she said. "They will be investigated, brought before a judge to extend their detention and charge sheets will be prepared."

Maybe they timed the arrests they were planning to cooincide with the begining of operations in Gaza

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Reply #14 - Jul 12^th, 2006 at 11:31am

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A5A917D4-76E6-46F6-A92B-7250249FD172.htm

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Israeli troops have entered Lebanon to search for two soldiers captured by Hezbollah fighters during a cross-border raid.

Lieutenant-General Dan Halutz, the Israeli Army Chief of Staff, warned the Lebanese government that Israel would attack its infrastructure and "turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years" if the soldiers were not returned, Israeli TV reported.

Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, described the Hezbollah raid as an "act of war" by Lebanon and promised a "very painful and far-reaching response".

The Israeli military carried out air attacks, and used tanks and gunboats in retaliatory strikes.

This is getting out of hand, things are only going to get worse.

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