http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060302/sc_nm/science_blush_dc

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1.) Who the crap is paying these "researchers"?

2.) How come it is presented as fact when all they are doing is guessing?

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3.) Where is your evidence?

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This could connect up with why we're the 'naked ape'

Roffle.

I cannot believe some of these people. They are honestly more creative than any artist or writer or anyone else for that matter. They way they can just make these random assumptions and pass them off as legitament study and research blows my mind.

I've had it with them. More flipping faith than any religious person I know. If only my Christianity was as strong as their belief in evolution.

~Briney

They are only deluding themselves!  For this, I've kept a couple quotes I think are pretty good at describing the overall picture of the evolution sham.

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I like how it says evolution is a mystery even to those who support it...kinda like a biologist (who might have doubts) saying, Oh evolution must be true becuase a geologist dates the rocks at 500 million years old, vice versa, and so on.

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Even if a scientist does doubt evolution and instead believes in some supernatural creation, he would have a hard time getting past the evolutionary paradigm.  Would TIME magazine or Scientific American publish an article supporting the existance of God? Heh, if they did, it would probably start riots.

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Seems like this is happening alot, hehe.

I'm currently in a philosophy of science class and the prof announced today that there will be a well known speaker/professor(Michael Ruse) coming to Western to address evolutionary theories and creationism.  Its going to be at the Fetzer Center on WMU campus March 16th at 7pm if anyone is interested in attending that with me, contact me or reply here about it.

I'm not quite sure what the guy's stance is on the issue yet....

Michael Ruse, Ph.D.
Lucyle T. Werkmeister Professor of Philosophy
Director of the Program in the History and Philosophy of Science
Florida State University
The Evolution- Creation Struggle: A Very American Story
Thursday, March 16th, 7:00pm
Fetzer Center, Large Auditorium

Man, I want to crash that guy's party so badly.  Unfortunately, I've got midterm exams that night.  SUXOR.

Someone has to represent us!  You know this guy is going to have a Q&A session.  Hit 'em hard!

-b0b
(...votes for Briney and Pat.)

So... you're going?

-b0b
(...couldn't quite decipher that part.)

I don't like science, simply because alot of the attitude I've faced from people in that field (granted, I have also met some very awesome and kind scientists). There always seems to be that "I have to prove you wrong" attitude. But, if you ask them certain questions they simply don't know.


Maybe I'm just incompetent when it comes to the realms of science, but I know its not my favorite, especially when people are out to disprove everyone elses faiths.



If any of you are wondering, yes, I have changed alot since going to college.





cait


(is at work and really needs someone to talk to because shes bored)

MediaMaster wrote on Apr 5^th, 2006 at 2:12am:


Heck yeah!  I want to be in charge of writing the baseless conjecture, scientific gossip, random hearsay, and other "science news."  You've got to fight fire with fire, don't you?

LOL M I RITE?

-b0b
(...is kidding!)

You get to be the fruity guy with the power of love.

-b0b
(...shudders.)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1747926,00.html
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060405/D8GQ4T8O5.html

On Druge this article was prefaced with this statement -
"Discovered: missing link that solves a mystery of evolution..."
"Fossil Fish Sheds Light on Transition..."

These are what we call...lies.

X

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/09/do0907.xml...

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Hehe I'm glad someone said it.

The same scientists that believe that human beings can cause global warming, also believe that we all started from ooze on a rock...

Global warming (and cancer) are caused by Wes's unmitigated flatulence.

-b0b
(...knows these things.)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060410/sc_space/newcluestohowgalaxiesevolve

Here we go again!

"New findings are revealing how individual galaxies in galaxy clusters evolve over time, changing from chemically simple to complex and from spirals to smooth disks."

Yes because we all know that simple things always can become complex.  I mean look at ameba look how quickly they keep sprouting eyes and bodies with arms and legs!  Or how humans keep growing working 3rd and 4th arms because we do need more arms.  And I'm always jealous of those people who transcend to pure energy, they never have to shower!

"When the researchers actually looked, however, they found that galaxies located in far away clusters--seen as they existed in previous epochs--showed large variations in the abundance of elements such as oxygen and magnesium, while the chemistry of galaxies in close, young clusters were much less varied."

Hmm could this be because the universe is breaking down, ie the second law of thermodynamics?  Could gravity in the inlaying of a galaxy have other bodies more readily affect them with gravitational pull rather than those who are surounded by huge stars pulling at them from multiple directions? Hmmm.  Well obviously not because I'm just a stupid criminal justice major I don't have Ph. D. after my name.  They're smart and I'm dumb.

"This difference in chemistry proves that the clusters must actively change over time,"

Kind of like how I grow older and loose some of myself (hair, eyesight, etc.)  Wow, congradulations...you've just proved that our universe is getting older.  So is aging now considered evolution?

"For reasons still unclear, many galaxies have a spiral shape when they initially form. Yet over the past several billion years, many galaxies in clusters have changed from spiral to a smooth, or "lenticular," disk shape."

Again, we've seen this...right?  I mean we've been alive for that long and studying it for that long, or we have some actuall proof like a starting line drawn by not not God that says...this galaxy started like this!

Also this artcile talks about chemical evolution.  This never occurs.  While evolution theory supposes Hydrogen and some Helium were created in the Big Bang how did the other 105 or so elements evolve?  Isn't this called alchemy?  Can't we change Pb to Au, that's led into gold.  Don't we call that a psuedoscience...right up there with intelligent design?

Gonna steal bob's pic cause I like it.



X

Or would we simply fly off the planet because gravity would cease to exist?

-b0b
(...shrugs.)

Dude, you need to find Dr. Hovind's picture of all the dinosaurs being flung off the planet.

Is he coming back to the area this summer?  I'm too lazy to look at the calendar on his website.  Besides, we all know how accurate that thing is...

-b0b
(...would like to see him again one of these days.)

Alright, who forgot to flush?

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-b0b
(...could insert so many corny lines here.)

"And despite a murky history, no scholar has suggested the document is a forgery. "

Wow, no one has even suggested forgery?  Shoot, why did we even bother testing it then?

I wonder if the Da Vinci code is going to have a sequel any time soon.

(..agrees with Bob)

MediaMaster wrote on Apr 17^th, 2006 at 4:18pm:


Hammer, meet nail.  You hit that one right on the head.

-b0b
(...approves.)

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/04/19/fossil.snake.ap/index.html

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better preserved in the water?  Doesn't the ocean thrash around even in deep water, therefore the fossil would be in many pieces and hardly preserved.

X wrote on Apr 20^th, 2006 at 7:04pm:


Yeah, but... but... but.... science says it couldn't have happened!

-b0b
(...thinks we should go see that conspiracy theorist in Chicago.)

June 2-4.  I don't know if I'd be up for all three days, but I would definitely like to see how he presents his argument.

June is going to be a busy month for me, too.  I'll have to see if I can slip a day off in there somewhere.  Maybe another Friday/Saturday road trip for us?

-b0b
(...would love to.)

The self-cooling soda can...

http://www.tempratech.com/chill1.html

-b0b
(...would love to try one out.)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060508/sc_space/neanderthalsandhumansperhapsthey...

Alrighty folks...here we go again:

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If this is true then evolution must take place in one generation, this is called puncured evolution.  This is when a, for example, dinosaur has a bird.  And of course WE'VE ALL SEE THIS HAPPEN (/sarcasm).  Ya know I would become an atheist evolutionist if a scientist could show me evolution happen.  Let's say we have a monkey and that monkey grows to be 5 foot tall, walk completely upright, and learn to speak rudimentary English.  It must also loose its tail, develop a different skeletal structure especially in the hands and feets, etc.  I want to be able to see evolution.  I can see the planets revolve around the sun.  I can see that 2+2=4 (5 if you live with Orwell).  Why can't we see anything but micro-"evolution" occur.  If these are gradual changes then show me that as well.  I want to see a human being who is on the cusp on the next evolutionary character, a homo-super-spaien if you will.  Also I would like to see someone explain to me the formation of the brain in little changes.  You'll make a believer out of me if you can do that.

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Neanderthals have been proven time and again, by both creationists and non, that these "lower lifeforms" were just humans with advanced arthritist, probably from just after the Flood.  In fact, the continuous growth of the forehead and skull, which never stops growing, show that these humans were of a more advanced age than we can get to today.  If you want to know how "scientists" thought these were lower lifefroms you must understand that they saw the hunched back, big skull, and upright walk to be a middle step between apes and man.  However no other proof but the imagination of these "experts" supports this theory.  "But X, we've seen these acient men's faces with the aid of facial reconstruction and they look like a cross between apes and man!"  Two fold answer takes place here.  First, I could make your skull into a lesser advanced man by manipulating the program and using my imagination.  Put more hair on your face, make it darker, give you a unabrow, put you in a loin cloth.  Blam.  Cave man walking!  Second, the pictures you see in text books are arists renditions.  Scientists asked a few artists to imagine what early man would look like and draw it.  They did and when the scientists received the pictures they put them in an order, from early man to moder, as they saw fit.  By the power of imagination...we have SCIENCE...ence.....

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Take that first sentence.  It says that we KNOW evolution is long.  Therefore evolution is true.  However in the same flippin sentence it also says it is controversial and filled with major gaps!  Therefore evolution...is true?  Experts don't agree on the begining or end....but evolution is true.  Now look at that last sentence...involves significant estimates...that means guessing.  Not science...guessing.  We need to rise up and slew these dreamers and put real scientists in charge.  I would rather have an evolutionist deal with hard facts then BS their theory with "significant estimates"!  Good grief I can't believe this world at all anymore.

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Carbon-14 errors aside...hmm this looks like a good place for a global Flood...oh wait...nope...that can't happen.

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We call these anthropoligists...charlatains and harlots.

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Let's see if you can find the major stupidity in this quote.  Go ahead...I'll give ya a minute.................

It's the "there are no fossils, just sophisticated jewlrey..."  So we have no proof for what is being said...but we have jewlry and tools!  Therefore evolution is true.  I love the other part...these can only be made with modern humans advanced tech...yeah could sharpening a rock and making jewlry is real tough there.  Man I took this bone, broke the end of, now it's really pointy...my tech fu is better than yours!

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What's this?  We should trust C-14...but shift the results to our desired theories?  Umm I always thought you started with a theory and found proof for or against it and then you changed your theory accordingly.  Man, I'm going to start doing this.  Ya know my stocks didn't do well...but if they did I would have gotten this $5 mill, so I'll just take it anyways.  Good grief.

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A hole...or no transition?  Hmm I think so.

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The major thing here is the "I think such and such...but we wont' have proof until later."  Ahh yes...science...that's how we do it here!  Also, in order to input genetic info, one species must have the info already in place.  So since we all came from simple life...simple life has the genetic info the the human eye, the human brain, lungs, aposible thumbs, etc.....right?  Oh no wai...THEY'RE SIMPLE!!!  They cannot add new info...only take away!  But we don't care about genetics...only when we can use it to our advantage...let's not have hard science get in the way of our relig...I mean belie....I mean known facts!

X

Agreed.  Nice response.

-b0b
(...offers a golf clap.)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060603/sc_space/electricfishonvergeofevolutionar...

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http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm

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Thought this was a good read.

I don't know, Stewie, why don't you tell us?

-b0b
(...offers the soap box.)

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Well Well Well...it looks like something we "knew was truth" turned out to not be!

X

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FBCFE1B1-1994-4EDE-95CF-AAD664F9CCA2.htm


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hahaha

I bet reporters interview church leaders just becuase they know they are going to make themselves look like idiots. 

http://www.epw.senate.gov/pressitem.cfm?party=rep&id=257909

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haha i knew it

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/07/14/tyrannosaurs.midlife.ap/index.html

I just can't believe they can get this from a bunch of bones found in the dirt.  How does anyone even attempt to a) study this, b) publish this, and c) get people to believe this?

X

your momma.


     Cait
       (...yeah, that had to be said)

On a sad note

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/07/14/darwin.finches.ap/index.html

I think this "evolution" is happening too fast for evolutionists.  Also this has been seen before.  The beaks increase in size then they decrease again...this is adaptation not evolution.  I know I say this all the time but I can't believe people can believe this or at least claim this is evolution.

X

No Briney you forget we lost our gills 43.543 million years ago.  That means loosing is evolution.  I really don't understand why we should have lost our gills and not kept them.  Just think about the benefits...more hunting and gathering, more places to run from predators, be able to exercise more.  I really don't understand it.  Of course if we were created all special 10,000 years ago by a Being who knows better that would make a whole lot more sense.

X
(Dert dert derrrt)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060720/sc_nm/science_snakes_dc

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And I think we "evolved" farting in our sleep to ward off potential predators. Maybe the reason we have ears is to listen for incoming angry beavers. Perhaps our sense of touch evolved first so we could go around feeling potential food sources. If its sharp, dont eat it.

These "scientists" would do better off at the art school I go to because their sense of creativity is off the scale. Don't push your random crackpot ideas on us please. How about you wait until the scientific method is complete, and you have enough proof to back up your rediculous theories.

Applauds Eric....no joke

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060731/ap_on_re_us/creation_museum

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Yes, I'd like to resign as a citizen of this planet due to the fact that there is a bias that is clouding the judgement of most  human beings, thanks to the brilliant minds at the various institutions.

..ugh

Gotta love Ken Hamm though!

My message to Pianka and the rest would simply be, "You first."

-b0b
(...doesn't get it.)

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Boy don't you feel smaller than dirt after reading that biased article?!

X

But, but, but... we have to live carbon-neutral lifestyles!

-b0b
(...notes that Al Gore owns three huge houses.)

OH come on now Briney...science without bias?  Never...remember the days of old when Einstein said...I want to know God's thoughts...the rest are just details.  A man who believed in a Creator and yet carried out some prolific science.  Of course that was hard science.  Yet whenever you have the ability to interpret findings...you will always have bias.  I'm just sick and tired of science always being considered always correct.  It reminds me of 1984 and how Winston had to change the past so that Big Brother was never wrong.  Today we view things today as correct because of science and theories like the geocentric model of the universe being because of religion.  Science has and always will change.  We find out more and more about the world we live in, from the macro to the micro and it changes what we believed to be true.  Yet "science" is always right?  Which was to the place where I can curse Emmanuel Goldstein?!

X

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyid=2006-09-0...

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Oh yea?

wait a minute, evolution is supposed to be driven by natural selection.. so how is it possilbe to evolve into less fit organisms?

Agreed.  Science is suppose to be this true thing for all people at all times in all places.  However I think post-modernism (the believe that there are no absoultes...basically a bunch of French BS) is intertwining with "science".  We, that is the secular world, wants hard facts yet they don't want anything to stand in judgement over them whether it be a Supreme Being or the Laws of Nature.  It all comes down to the irrational, illogical view of people to try and shape their world according to their beliefs.  Now, "religious" people do this as well.  Yet as we see more apologetists and science and logic come into the field of religion...the more dogma and blind faith comes into science.  It seems that either the universe is either slipping back into some Bizarro world...or things are equallying out.  Either way both sides need to see the logic fallacies and irrationalities they bring into their situations and not try to dismiss them as nothing or try and say "nothing is wrong!".

X

ya that article made me a bit mad. I guess ive evolved to not like free thought and whatnot.

That article sucked.  All it really said was, "Some guy has a theory, which is this..."  Nowhere did it provide any substantiation for his belief, merely that he had one.

-b0b
(...has beliefs, too, but you don't see those getting printed.)

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You mean something which evolution said was absolute fact has been slightly WRONG?!  I...I am shocked...appalled even.  Here I thought we KNEW that they lived for a short period...I mean we KNEW it.  Now you're saying we're changing out...interpretation of the data we had to come up with a more accurate theory?  That's...that's almost like science or something!!!  Now if they would only look at the background factors they take as objective facts we could be done with evolution forever!!!

X

I find that professor's university to be a bit ironic.

-b0b
(...is sure Stewie must've caught it, too.)

I now believe evolution!!!

http://www.break.com/index/guinness_evolution_ad.html

See vid above.

X
(not joking...really....I'm not...not in the least....not even in the itsy bitsy least)

Uh oh, that looks like conclusive evidence to me.  It's time to pack our bags, guys, we're going home.

-b0b
(...snickers.)

yeah, the new hobby of finding the cure for cancer and aids, or at least one life-threatening diesease.


i hate "scientists" like this.

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Thanks for the tip!

What's up with the new avatar, Briney?  It looks like a Wii advertisement with a fruity background.

-b0b
(...chuckles.)

I just want a full body suit controller.  That way I can karate kick b0b in the face over Xbox 1024 LIVE from Colorado Springs to Podunk Michiga.

I was over at a new friends house yesterday and saw a commercial for a Wii game called Sadness.  It did make me sad...because people would be excited to play it.  You had to use the wand controller to move your torch to get rid of rats, or use it to slash a guy's throat, or to stab demons.  They made a beautiful model as the player...yet, all I could think of was how most of the games will be excitedly played by Japanese who will wash windows or play tennis or wash windows.  OOO FUN!!!  I hope Nintendo goes almost belly up with the Wii.  I hope it will do worse than the Virtual Boy and Sega Saturn.  And all those people in your class Briney, will be weeping and nash their teeth.  I want the rivers to run white with the Wii, I want morgues filled with bodies with controllers embedded in people's eyes because they couldn't take the gayness anymore.

In conclusion, I don't like the Wii.

X