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Reply #90 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 1:45pm

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RICHMOND, Va. - A Virginia school district didn't violate a teacher's free-speech rights by removing Christian-themed postings from his classroom walls, a federal judge has ruled.
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In her ruling filed last week, U.S. District Judge Rebecca Beach Smith said William Lee's posters at Tabb High School were part of his instructional tools and school curriculum and were subject to school review.

Lee, a Spanish teacher who advises the school's Christian students club, had displayed news articles about
President Bush's religious faith, a National Day of Prayer flier and a depiction of George Washington praying at Valley Forge.

Officials removed the postings from Lee's classroom in 2004 after a parent complained, but they allowed some to stay, including a photo of Boy Scouts praying in memory of those killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Lee argued that his bulletin boards at the school in Yorktown, about 65 miles southeast of Richmond, were a limited public forum open for teachers' private expression and speech.

Smith disagreed, saying the case "is not about what free-speech rights Lee has as an individual expressing himself on private property. Rather, this case is a question about what free-speech rights Lee has as a public school teacher-employee."

York County Superintendent Steven R. Staples said the ruling reaffirmed both the school board's right to set curriculum and principals' right to guide teachers to choose classroom material that supports it.

Lee's attorney, Steve C. Taylor, didn't immediately return a call for comment.

A spokeswoman for the Rutherford Institute, the Christian-rights group that argued the case on Lee's behalf, said she wouldn't comment until the group has reviewed the ruling.

This is all kinds of wrong.

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Reply #91 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 2:36pm

Isn't that almost the same situation as Pat's? except that he didn't use up 20 mins of on-the-job time?

Yes, Christianity is almost always singled while other religions (evolution for one) are permitted, but that is a whole different issue. Today, the teacher's political commentary would be labeled along the same lines as a teacher's religion. (as an opinion) So, both situations are either right/wrong.

Personally, at this point, I think the solution would be to hire teachers that allow much more discussion in class so there is alot less brainwashing (even though you could be brainwashing them correctly and truthtfully - i think it would be better if they understood why). Also, parents should take really take an active role in teaching and raising their kids so they can avoid these kinds of problems in the real world.

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Reply #92 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 2:51pm

The two issues are apples and oranges. One is an active indoctrination, the other is a poster. Nothing more, nothing less.

The poster does not have feelings or emotions. It does not evoke or elicit anything beyond the intended statement of the original artist. It's a depiction of a universally uncontested historical event which is entirely appropriate for the setting in question.

Comparing that to a libtard that goes on a twenty-minute diatribe to espouse his personal philosophy is foolhardy at best.

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Reply #94 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 3:59pm

If you can show me how anti-Bush or satanic posters are logically relevant to a geography class, I'll be more than happy to concede.

The action depicted in the poster in question represented a major turning point in the Revolutionary War. It's an artist's depiction of a relevant historical event, not some type of religious or political commentary.

It was a symbolic event. The fledgling American military was near disaster at Valley Forge. Between the Brits and the horrible winter, American was on the verge of being stillborn. Washington found strength from his prayer, and it enabled him to keep the Continental Army together. To say otherwise is to spit on the legacy of our founding fathers.

To be at the brink of death, morale dwindling away, the forces of the enemy closing around, all else seeming to be hopeless, but to find the strength to embolden one to go on and push for victory - that is what this picture is about. Look again. A truly inspirational moment in our history I say.

The constitution recognizes freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. How a poster depicting a curriculum-relevent event can be considered "pushing religion" is beyond me.

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Reply #95 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 6:24pm

Then how is a Valley Forge poster relevant to Spanish class?

How are several posters celebrating a certain faith not the same as telling someone your personal views? It's like WWII propaganda. The teacher is persuading his student in a non-cirriculum matter. Both situations have the same effect.

Also, I hardly think a poster exclaiming Bush's religion is curriculum relevant.

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Reply #96 - Mar 3^rd, 2006 at 11:27am

http://cbs4denver.com/local/local_story_061125200.html

*Stands Up*

I....am and English Speaking American!

Does anyone here that noise....sounds like someone keeps rolling over....in George Orwells grave!

Best line from the article:

I got a new supervisor," said Gray. "He's a politically correct, bleeding heart liberal. I believe in what I'm doing."

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Reply #97 - Mar 3^rd, 2006 at 11:40am

You should give the guy a call and thank him for standing up for himself.

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I love the title of the article. "CBS4 Investigates `English Speaking' Sign Flap". It makes it sound as though they are the defenders of the free world, united together to smite quasi-racists with their flaming swords of divine justice.

What total garbage.

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Reply #98 - Mar 5^th, 2006 at 8:46am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060305/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/secret_justice

I like this article for two reasons:

1) It shows us a lot more of what our own government is taking away from us. It's a beautiful thing when the government officials we elect and are suppose to hold accountable think they are responsilbe in keeping our "poor lil minds safe from the big bad world". It reminds me of a Bible quote about hating the light and doing things in the dark because they fear the light.

2) The article talks about a lot of these secret trials being sealed because the person has agreed to testify. Hmm the government making deals with crooks...that's just good entertainment right there.

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Reply #99 - Mar 9^th, 2006 at 6:35pm

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/aaf675ba-afb6-11da-b417-0000779e2340.html
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The decision by the United Arab Emirates on Thursday to order state-controlled Dubai Ports World to end its control over US port facilities marks the lowest point yet in the relationship between President George W. Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress.

Mr Bush had warned repeatedly that blocking the deal would send a dangerously discriminatory message to the world. He threatened repeatedly to veto any congressional legislation.

But with his public approval ratings at record lows and his Republican party abandoning him, one of the US’s closest allies in the Arab world concluded that he was no longer in control in Washington.

The decision by Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al- Maktoum, the ruler of Dubai, is likely to avert the political backlash that hit Washington last month and may prevent any further damage to diplomatic and security relations between the countries. But it underscored that Mr Bush, who still has nearly three years to go in his second term, has become perilously weak.

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Reply #101 - Mar 10^th, 2006 at 12:19pm

No, see we hold the war on November 1 and suspend the elections until the major part of the war is over...unfortunately, Bush is the one to decide it...so I would like to be the first to say...Welcome King Bush, Lord Bush...let us go to Bohemium Grove and worship at the alter of Moloch, a Cainnite owl god...but we'll do it because you oh lord bush are a great Christian....

who worships at an alter of Molloch, a Cainnite owl god.

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Reply #103 - Mar 14^th, 2006 at 3:13am

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20050714-082628-1346r.htm

What's up with mainstream media...actually reporting the truth? An article about vaccines and their relation to autism.

http://www.rense.com/general59/vvac.htm

Wonderful compilation about all the "fun" stuff that's injected into you. These ingrediates are going into our grandparents, parents, kids, and even us!

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Reply #104 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 4:07pm

Hey Stewie, here's some conspiracy fodder for your fire.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/newsroom/chi-060315terror,1,7281670.st...

Feds probe photographers at Sears Tower

Tribune staff reports
Published March 15, 2006, 10:38 PM CST

Police and federal investigators are looking into an incident about three weeks ago at the Sears Tower in which three men caught the attention of security guards when they got out of their car and appeared to be studying the 110-story building and taking photographs.

The men were questioned by building security guards, but were allowed to leave, authorities said. The guards recorded the car's license plate and it was traced to a rental agency, a law enforcement source said.

The car was returned to the agency about an hour after the incident at the Sears Tower, the source said, and investigators from the Joint Terrorism Task Force learned that it had been rented with a fictitious name.

Chicago Police Department spokeswoman Monique Bond confirmed that the department is working with the task force to investigate, but added that she could not discuss the specifics of the incidents.

"We are aware of the information," Bond said. "We cannot comment at this time because it's part of the ongoing investigation."

Also within the last three weeks, according to a WLS-TV report, a man was questioned about sketching the Boeing World Headquarters building.

Here's another story to get your wheels spinning. The USAF launched the biggest air campaign in Iraq since the invasion in 2003.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1215594,00.html?f=dta

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