http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/fema-concentration-camps-locations-and-execu...

the descriptions of the bases are completely unsubstantiated, like this:

“Okanogan County - Borders Canada and is a site for a massive concentration camp capable of holding hundreds of thousands of people for slave labor. This is probably one of the locations that will be used to hold hard core patriots who will be held captive for the rest of their lives.”

Where did you get this from? And why a spoonful of truth, followed by a spoonful of sh*t?

OK lets review…
ALASKA
Wilderness - East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000 Elmendorf AFB - Northeast area of Anchorage - far end of base. Garden Plot facility.
Eielson AFB - Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility.
Ft. Wainwright - East of Fairbanks

This is too funny.
East of Anchorage is nothing but mountains, no railroads, and zero places to land any aircraft. The railroad does travel northeast on the Fairbanks route, and southeast to Seward it can be accessed by road for the entire length northeast of Anchorage, and is visable from the highway. It may be difficult to access going southeast because of the mountain ranges, but get real, logistics would be far too costly and complicated as 60-70 percent of all consumables must be flown to Anchorage as it is right now, the rest comes in twice a week on two container ships. 500,000 capacity? There are 260,000 people in Anchorage so maybe we already live in the concentration camp? There may be 500,000 people in the entire state…maybe. Eielson..LOL nothing happening there. Ft. Wainright..are you kidding me, there are maybe 70,000 people in the Fairbanks area, and that includes North Pole and Eielson AFB. The simple fact is that there are no facilities in existance that can handle 1,000 people, let alone 500,000. I have personally been all over all of the mentioned bases, and I travel all over Alaska in small planes and Helecopters, so I am quite sure there are no “hidden” concentration camps within 500 miles of any city in Alaska. I dont know about the other states mentioned but I sure am laughing about the list for Alaska. You might as well say the concentration camp is at the Coast Guard base in Kodiak. Thats an island in case you dont know. There are several other bases in Alaska, Ft. Richardson, Ft. Greely, what kind of capacity do they have? Thanks for the great humor, I just hope I dont get sent to the gulag for this. LOLROFLLMAO

A detention camp for 2 million people is AKA a large city. I laughed out loud when I read that. What blatant BS.

I also love how the camps are fully staffed, but with no inmates. What do the guards do all day? Practice lockdowns? Hilarious.

Ashcroft is not longer our Attorney General. Alberto Gonzales is. If you can’t even get that correct, why should we accept the rest of your theory? And who would put FEMA in charge of anything of this magnitude. Even W. isn’t that stupid.

Avon Park Florida is a National Gaurd training base. The “prison” there is a training facility.

I have been hearing about the seceret concentration camps since Jimmy Carter was president.

This is a cool concept, very urgently rendered. But FEMA couldn’t handle a natural disaster, I don’t see them suddenly establishing, staffing and organizing detention/concentration/re-education camps.

2 million facility? Do you actually realize the size of that number? That would be larger than Fairbanks itself. How about posting some Google Earth shots of these facilities to back this up. Also a lot is being read into the use of military facilites that I would say is inaccurate.

Funny…. There is one historic hangar left at the Robert Meuller Airport in Austin, TX. Seeing as how there is a new children’s hospital being built on that very site, as well as extensive plans for a housing development (including schools, shopping center, etc), it seems like a rather odd space for a detention center….

I live in Hawaii–the article notes that the former Barbers Naval Air Station “could be” used for detention centers. Yeah, and they could also be used for alien landings, unicorn ranching, or mind control microwave broadcasting… but in fact, Barbers is used for homeless vet programs, Univ of Hawaii aerospace studies, and a few baseyards for small construction companies.

Biggest bomb plot in British history - doesn't make news

The Truth Will Set You Free | October 11 2006

Why?

Because the suspects are NEITHER ARAB, NOR MUSLIM.

A RETIRED Grange dentist is accused of being part of a bomb plot after a record number of explosives were seized in a Lancashire town.

David Bolais Jackson, 62, of Trent Road, Nelson, was arrested on Friday in the Lancaster area after leaving his Grange practice for the last time.

Jackson was charged with being in possession of an explosive substance for an unlawful purpose. [Notice the absence of terrorism charges]

However, it is unclear who or what the intended target might have been.

Police found rocket launchers, chemicals, British National Party literature and a nuclear or biological suit [!!!] at his home.

The find came shortly after they had recovered 22 chemical components from the house of his alleged accomplice, Robert Cottage, a former BNP election candidate, who lives in Colne.

The haul is thought to be THE LARGEST EVER FOUND AT A HOUSE IN THIS COUNTRY.

Aaah, so what? What's a few rocket launchers and a record number of explosives among friends?

They probably had them 'just in case' some Arab Muslims showed up to sell them falafel or hummus - or worse yet, baklava.

After all, they're white - they would never harm their fellow Brits. Whoops! I could be wrong:
[T]he last London mad-bomber – neo-Nazi David Copeland, who nail-bombed the Admiral Duncan and two other pubs in 1999 – caused far more genuine fear than all these alleged Islamist plots in the alleged "pre-planning" (ie coffee-shop bullsh-t) stage.

Copeland "only" killed three people (and maimed about a dozen more) but not for want of trying – the blast of the last bomb he placed was blocked by a pillar. Targeting places where gay, black and Asian people hang out – ie inner-city pubs with good music and food – he was charged simply with murder.
Let's compare and contrast how Cottage, possessing both rocket launchers and explosives, was treated with how Arab Muslim 'suspects', armed with nothing but their names, were treated:

Unlike the Forest Gate raid in east London in June, which involved 250 police, some of them armed, Lancashire police entered Cottage's home with a handful of unarmed officers.

There was no “air exclusion zone” or assaults on neighbours, no closing down of surrounding streets, and no smear stories about those arrested.

Superintendent Neil Smith instantly moved to reassure residents and stressed, “It is not a bomb making factory.” He was able to add that it was not related to terrorism.


Let's face it - it's just not newsworthy.

Move along, there's nothing to see here.

U.S. agents question teen
Girl ran anti-Bush page on MySpace
By Laurel Rosenhall and Ryan Lillis - Bee Staff Writers

Published 12:00 am PDT Friday, October 13, 2006
Story appeared in MAIN NEWS section, Page A1

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Julia Wilson, 14, got a surprise visit from two Secret Service agents Wednesday at McClatchy High after the words "Kill Bush" appeared on MySpace.com. Her mom, Kirstie Wilson, says she should have been present when her daughter was questioned. Sacramento Bee/Hector Amezcua

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The latest Sacramento resident to be questioned by federal agents in possible threats against President Bush is a 14-year-old girl with a heart on her backpack and braces on her teeth, a freckle-nosed adolescent who is passionate about liberal politics and cute movie stars.

Her name is Julia Wilson, and she learned a vivid civics lesson Wednesday when two Secret Service agents pulled her out of biology class at McClatchy High School to ask about comments and images she posted on MySpace.

Beneath the words "Kill Bush," Julia posted a cartoonish photo-collage of a knife stabbing the hand of the president. It was one of a few images Julia said she used to decorate an anti-Bush Web page she moderated on MySpace, the social networking Web site that is hugely popular among teenagers.

The Secret Service refused to answer questions about the case or even confirm an investigation. Eric Zahren, a Secret Service spokesman, said the agency does not discuss its work "due to the sensitivity of our mission."

But Julia's mother, Kirstie Wilson, and an assistant principal at McClatchy High said two agents showed them badges stating they were with the Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security.

Federal law prohibits making serious threats against the president, and Julia and her parents say what she did was wrong.

The couple are disturbed, however, that federal agents questioned a child at school -- without her parents present. And First Amendment lawyers question whether the Secret Service over-reacted to a 14-year-old's comments on a Web site made for casual socializing.

"I don't condone what she did, but it seems a little over the top to me," said Julia's father, Jim Moose. "You'd think they could look at the situation and determine that she's not a credible threat."

Earlier this month, federal officials arrested two Sacramento-area men for allegedly threatening the president. Elk Grove resident Michael Lee Braun has been charged with sending two threatening letters to the El Dorado Hills country club where Bush recently made an appearance. Rocklin resident Howard J. Kinsey is accused of threatening the president through a text message.

Here is how Julia Wilson's family tells their story:

Two Secret Service agents arrived at their Land Park home about 2:30 Wednesday afternoon, Kirstie Wilson said. They told her they wanted to speak with her daughter about threats to the president that she had posted on MySpace.

"She was in molecular biology, and I said I really didn't want to take her out of class for this," Kirstie Wilson said. "I said I'd make sure she came right home from school."

She asked the agents to come back in an hour, and they left.

Then Wilson sent her daughter a text message instructing her to come straight home from school.

"... there are two men from the secret service that want to talk with you. Apparently you made some death threats against president bush. Dont worry youre not going to jail or anything like that but they take these things very seriously these days," Kirstie Wilson wrote.

"Are you serious!?!? omg. Am I in a lot of trouble"? her daughter replied, using common teenage shorthand for "Oh, my God."

Kirstie Wilson called her husband. While they were on the phone, she received another text message from her daughter: "They took me out of class."

It was a 15- to 20-minute interview, Julia said. Agents asked her about her father's job, her e-mail address, and her Social Security number. They asked about the MySpace page she had created last year as an eighth-grader at Sutter Middle School.

"I told them I just really don't agree with Bush's politics," Julia said Thursday. "I don't have any plans of harming Bush in any way. I'm very peaceful; I just don't like Bush."

The MySpace page under question was a group page, similar to an online club.

Most of the groups Julia is a part of are fan clubs for movie stars like Jake Gyllenhaal and Ewan McGregor. The group that got her in trouble was called something like "People who want to stab Bush" -- Julia said she doesn't remember the exact name because she soon changed it.

After an eighth-grade history lesson in which she learned that threatening the president is against the law, Julia said she changed the group name to "So Bush is an idiot but hey what else is new?"

The group primarily consisted of her teenage friends who share her liberal political interests, Julia said. She deleted the group page over the summer when she decided that MySpace was juvenile and taking up too much time.

Moose and Wilson say they had no idea what their daughter had posted online.

"I was more than happy to have them talk to her about the severity of what she did. But I wanted to be here with her," Kirstie Wilson said.

McClatchy Assistant Principal Paul Belluomini said he usually does not notify parents when law enforcement officials come to school to interview students.

"Parents usually interfere with an investigation, so we usually don't notify them until it's done," he said.

Sacramento City Unified School District policy calls for parents to be notified but doesn't say whether it should happen before or after a student is interviewed. State law doesn't require parental notification.

In any case, said Ann Brick, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union of Northern California, Julia Wilson's post did not sound like a "true threat" to the president, making it political speech that is protected by the First Amendment.

"The courts have to distinguish between political rhetoric and hyperbole and a real threat," Brick said. "A reasonable person would have to interpret what was said as indication of a serious intent to commit harm."

Peter Scheer, executive director of the California First Amendment Coalition, said in the current political climate, "the threshold that brings (agents) in has gotten lower."

"It's a cautionary tale for kids who are on MySpace that putting something on MySpace like 'Kill the President' is not the same as saying it on e-mail or over the phone," Scheer said. "The government is not systematically listening to all phone calls or going through e-mails, but it probably does search the Internet."