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Stick Wootzor von Leetenhaxor FTP Server Offline Stick is back Posts: 501 Michgan Gender:	Re: Cry freedom! Reply #1260 - Aug 18^th, 2009 at 2:38pm I completely agree but I have a hard time thinking that the average door greeting 20 to 40 year old female is going to have the same view on this unless her supervisors explain it to her first. She'll be like "oh a gun, you can't bring that in here."
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b0b GeekCrew Administrator FTP Server Offline The revolution will not be televised. Posts: 7464 Battle Creek, Michigan Gender:	Re: Cry freedom! Reply #1262 - Aug 18^th, 2009 at 5:42pm X wrote on Aug 18^th, 2009 at 3:38pm: Psh she's just a 20-40 y/o female door greeter...and I have a gun! WHERE ARE MY BABY BACK RIBS!!!??? Bahahaha, I was thinking the same thing (minus the ribs)! -b0b (...bets Stewie would throw down with a 20 y/o female greeter.)
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Reply #1263 - Aug 19^th, 2009 at 8:54am

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Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others
Aug 18 03:51 PM US/Eastern
By KATIE NELSON
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FILE - In this Nov. 19, 2005 file photo, radio talk-show host Hal Turner...

Jailed ‘Shock’ Blogger Hal Turner Claims FBI Trained Him to Be ‘Agent Provocateur’

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges was trained by the FBI on how to be deliberately provocative, his attorney said Tuesday.
Hal Turner worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an "agent provocateur" and was taught by the agency "what he could say that wouldn't be crossing the line," defense attorney Michael Orozco said.

"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest," Orozco said.

Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations, but the defense has said Turner was not working for the FBI when he allegedly made threats against Connecticut legislators and wrote that three federal judges in Illinois deserved to die.

"But if you compare anything that he did say when he was operating, there was no difference. No difference whatsoever," Orozco said.

Special Agent Ross Rice, a spokesman for the FBI in Chicago, said he would not comment on or even confirm Turner's relationship with the FBI.

Orozco spoke to reporters after a court hearing in Hartford on Tuesday. Turner, 47, of North Bergen, N.J., did not appear, because he is in federal custody in Illinois. His arraignment on the Connecticut charges was rescheduled to Oct. 19.

In June, Turner urged his readers to "take up arms" against Connecticut lawmakers and suggested government officials should "obey the Constitution or die," because he was angry over legislation—later withdrawn—that would have given lay members of Roman Catholic churches more control over their parish's finances.

He wrote in Internet postings the same month that the Illinois federal appeals judges "deserve to be killed" because they issued a ruling that upheld ordinances in Chicago and suburban Oak Park banning handguns. He included their photos and the room numbers of their chambers at the courthouse.

Orozco officially joined Turner's defense team in the Connecticut case on Tuesday, with approval from Superior Court Judge David Gold. Orozco said his Newark, N.J.-based firm has been representing Turner for the past five years, including during his FBI informant years.

Turner's Connecticut attorney, Matthew R. Potter, said it's too early to tell which trial will move forward first. Orozco said he plans First Amendment defenses in both cases.

Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Chicago, said the office would not comment on Orozco's statements.

Why do we allow a government to even have "Agent Provocateur"?! This is tryanny at it's finest and this is what Orwell also warned about with his Emmanuel Goldstein character! Gosh, I hate this so much.

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Reply #1264 - Aug 20^th, 2009 at 6:14am

Stick wrote on Aug 18^th, 2009 at 1:32pm:

Have you guys been reading about all these cases of open carry at peaceful protests? The only thing that may never make open carry common place are privately owned businesses not allowing it. I doubt in todays society that a restaurant would allow an open carry to eat at their diner for example.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/17/obama.protest.rifle/index.html

MSNBC got all pissy about the guy with the AR15, and argued that it probably had racial overtones. White guys with guns at an event for a black president? RAAAAAACIST!

The problem? They doctored the video of the guy to hide the fact he was black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI

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Reply #1266 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 10:15am

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Police taking valuables from unlocked cars to drive home anti-theft message

Police in Richmond upon Thames, south west London have been taking valuable items from unlocked cars to encourage motorists to take better care of their property.

By David Millward, Transport Editor
Published: 2:50PM BST 25 Aug 2009

While forces across the country have been sending warning letters to the owners of cars when they see possessions unattended, this is believed to be the first time that goods have been "stolen" to drive the crime-prevention message home.

When officers remove goods, they leave a note in the car telling the owner that they can retrieve their possessions from Twickenham police station.

The initiative has been launched in an area where theft from cars has been rife.

"We have had a bit problem with thefts from cars, so we decided to be a bit more innovative," said Superintendent Jim Davis, the officer behind the initiative.

If items are needed urgently, police will return the goods immediately.

"We want to stop people from being the victims of crime," he said. "We are not talking about £3 in loose change in the glove compartment, we are talking about cameras, laptops and expensive leather jackets. People would be far more upset if their property really was stolen."

Police are only removing items from unlocked cars. Where they see either an unlocked car or valuables left exposed in a locked vehicle, owners are being sent a letter advising them to take better care or their property.

The initiative was welcomed by the AA. "It would be quite irritating for motorists to come back to their car and find that items have gone missing. But on reflection they may think it is better that the stuff has been taken by the police rather than local thieves.

"I would imagine police patience is wearing thin and there have been other projects where they have set up cars as decoys and caught thieves. "

Wow, England is looking more like the country of Orwell's nightmares with every passing day. It's a good thing they took everyone's guns away before they tried pulling this stunt.

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Stick Wootzor von Leetenhaxor FTP Server Offline Stick is back Posts: 501 Michgan Gender:	Re: Cry freedom! Reply #1267 - Aug 31^st, 2009 at 11:29am Does anyone know how or if it is possible to open carry while in a vehicle? Has anyone here open carried?
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Reply #1268 - Aug 31^st, 2009 at 11:49am

The only time you can open carry in a vehicle is if you have a concealed weapons permit. If you do not the gun must be locked in the trunk and the ammo seperate from the weapon.

I have just recently begun to open carry when in public. I have yet to be turned down for service or told to leave and no cops have arrested me yet.

I recently posted the MI ruling on open carry that you can find in this posting.

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Reply #1269 - Aug 31^st, 2009 at 7:08pm

Stick wrote on Aug 31^st, 2009 at 11:29am:

Does anyone know how or if it is possible to open carry while in a vehicle? Has anyone here open carried?

No! In Michigan, any weapon on your person is considered concealed when in a vehicle. Most states apply a reasonable standard to "open" carry in a vehicle, but Michigan retardedly bans it altogether.

I carried openly from time to time between turning 21 and getting my concealed carry license nine months later. Honestly, I don't think anybody even noticed. That said, if you carry openly, you should plan on getting harassed by morons. Don't be too surprised if some idiot calls the police to report "a man with a gun!!!!!!!11111one!" You'll be on the legal and moral high ground, though.

Remember, if you open carry, you must separate the gun and ammunition and lock 'em up before you get into the car. Better yet, just get a concealed carry license then you don't have to worry about locking up your pistol when you get in the car.

Check out a concise list of Michigan's carry laws here.

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Reply #1271 - Sep 1^st, 2009 at 6:14am

I wholeheartedly recommend Southside Sportman Club in Battle Creek. When I took their class, it was about $140. That's a bit more expensive than other places, but you get your mandated three hours of range time for free as well as your passport photo for your application. They even give you breakfast and lunch, so you don't have to find your way around Battle Creek.

On top of that, the class was excellent. They managed to keep the entire eight-hour session interesting and relevant. That's quite a feat.

Their web page appears to be broken, but it can (usually) be found here.

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Reply #1272 - Sep 1^st, 2009 at 9:21am

Thanks for the information, I've been open carrying at my home because I sold my car and the buyer is not satisfied with the vehicle that he agreed to purchase. He sent me a text message saying, in summary, that he has my address and it's no big deal for him to travel 2.5 hours and be there. I also wanted to have the firearm in my vehicle in case I show up to my home and he is already waiting for me there.

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The_Fat_Man Wootzor von Leetenhaxor FTP Server Offline Grand High Overlard Posts: 910 Colorado Springs, Colorado Gender:	Re: Cry freedom! Reply #1273 - Sep 1^st, 2009 at 4:40pm If you sold the vehicle as is, then tell him to get lost. If he threatens you again just turn his ass in to the police Stick.
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b0b GeekCrew Administrator FTP Server Offline The revolution will not be televised. Posts: 7464 Battle Creek, Michigan Gender:	Re: Cry freedom! Reply #1274 - Sep 1^st, 2009 at 9:01pm Better yet, just preempt him. (I KEED, I KEED!) On a completely different not, check out Obama's latest approval ratings... -b0b (...slip sliding away!)
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