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Reply #1035 - Apr 10th, 2008 at 2:16pm
 
This system sucks.  I can police their union isn't haven't an aneurysm over this.

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Reply #1036 - Apr 10th, 2008 at 5:32pm
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm2si152ncQ

This isn't the only place or the only time the police have done this.

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Reply #1037 - Apr 11th, 2008 at 1:28pm
 
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Police Remove Olympic Torch Bearer On Orders Of Chinese Paramilitary

Communist Chinese-style political oppression came to San Francisco on Wednesday when police, acting on the orders of Chinese paramilitary cops, removed and shoved to the sidewalk an Olympic torch bearer for displaying a Tibetan flag, as the woman's pleas that she had the right to free speech as an American citizen fell on deaf ears.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la43HAPqCNk

Ya! Communism is phun!  Watch the cop manhandle the torchbearer.

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Reply #1038 - Apr 11th, 2008 at 2:58pm
 
Even if you completely ignore the torchbearer and focus solely on the "parade" of tactical officer, you should see an extremely disturbing trend. 

This is the United States of America, damn it, not some third-world totalitarian cesspit where government agents can push people around because they're holding a frickin' flag.  Freedom of speech is dead in this country.

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Reply #1039 - Apr 12th, 2008 at 2:55pm
 
Throughout the history of countries enacting these types of "terror laws" they have always ALWAYS been turned on the people and abused.  That's what happens when you give a government a little more power.

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  Anti-terror laws used to spy on family

Chris Green
London Independent
Saturday, April 12, 2008

A family who were wrongly suspected of lying on a school application form have discovered that their local council used anti-terrorism surveillance powers to spy on them.

The family, from Poole in Dorset, said they had been tailed for three weeks by council officials trying to establish whether they had given a false address in an attempt to get their three-year-old daughter a place at a heavily oversubscribed local nursery school, which their two older children had attended. The family had in fact done nothing wrong, and the investigation was eventually aborted.

Yesterday it emerged that Poole borough council had legitimately used the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act to monitor the family. This involved keeping a detailed log of their movements for two weeks, following the mother's car as she took her three children to school each day and even watching the family home to ascertain their sleeping habits.

(Article continues below)

The Act, passed in 2000, was supposed to allow security agencies to combat terrorism.

The 39-year-old mother, a businesswoman who wished to remain anonymous, said: "I can't imagine a greater invasion of our privacy. I'm incensed that legislation designed to combat terrorism can be turned on a three-year-old. It was very creepy when we found out that people had been watching us and making notes. Councils should be protecting children, not spying on them."

The council defended its right to investigate families in a covert manner, saying it had used the law twice in the past year to successfully prove parents were lying about where they lived.


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Reply #1040 - Apr 12th, 2008 at 4:59pm
 
Honestly, even if she was lying, is it really that big of a deal?  I wonder how much money the Council spent on that BS "investigation."

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Reply #1041 - Apr 14th, 2008 at 8:59am
 
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Reply #1042 - Apr 14th, 2008 at 9:14am
 
Since when did X move to portage?
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Reply #1043 - Apr 14th, 2008 at 9:51am
 
Since when did he age to be 50 !?!?

Poor fella.

I think X has some competition for most DVDs collected. We need to find out this guy's DVD count.
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Reply #1044 - Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:03am
 
It was some new STD... aged him in less than a day. His manwhorishness has finally caught up with him...
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Reply #1045 - Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:58am
 
This guy probably had "cams"where you can see people get up for popcorn.  No respectable pirate would have such a thing.

Also, when do DVD spindles give you not only probably cause to search the vehicle but also the person's home?  Plastic containers holding hundreds of DVDs? For less than 40 bucks you can get 200 at Best Buy.

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Reply #1046 - Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:10pm
 
X wrote on Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:58am:
This guy probably had "cams"where you can see people get up for popcorn.  No respectable pirate would have such a thing.


No kidding.  Shaky cams are an abomination to all that is holy.

On a side note, why do the police care about pirated DVD's?  That's a copyright issue and way, WAY out of their jurisdiction.

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Reply #1047 - Apr 17th, 2008 at 1:13pm
 
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Feds to collect DNA from every person they arrest

By EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press Writer Wed Apr 16, 7:39 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The government plans to begin collecting DNA samples from anyone arrested by a federal law enforcement agency — a move intended to prevent violent crime but which also is raising concerns about the privacy of innocent people.

Using authority granted by Congress, the government also plans to collect DNA samples from foreigners who are detained, whether they have been charged or not. The DNA would be collected through a cheek swab, Justice Department spokesman Erik Ablin said Wednesday. That would be a departure from current practice, which limits DNA collection to convicted felons.

Expanding the DNA database, known as CODIS, raises civil liberties questions about the potential for misuse of such personal information, such as family ties and genetic conditions.

Ablin said the DNA collection would be subject to the same privacy laws applied to current DNA sampling. That means none of it would be used for identifying genetic traits, diseases or disorders.

Congress gave the Justice Department the authority to expand DNA collection in two different laws passed in 2005 and 2006.

There are dozens of federal law enforcement agencies, ranging from the FBI to the Library of Congress Police. The federal government estimates it makes about 140,000 arrests each year.

Justice officials estimate the new collecting requirements would add DNA from an additional 1.2 million people to the database each year.

Those who support the expanded collection believe that DNA sampling could get violent criminals off the streets and prevent them from committing more crimes.

A Chicago study in 2005 found that 53 murders and rapes could have been prevented if a DNA sample had been collected upon arrest.

"Many innocent lives could have been saved had the government began this kind of DNA sampling in the 1990s when the technology to do so first became available," Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., said. Kyl sponsored the 2005 law that gave the Justice Department this authority.

Thirteen states have similar laws: Alaska, Arizona, California, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

The new regulation would mean that the federal government could store DNA samples of people who are not guilty of any crime, said Jesselyn McCurdy, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union.

"Now innocent people's DNA will be put into this huge CODIS database, and it will be very difficult for them to get it out if they are not charged or convicted of a crime," McCurdy said.

If a person is arrested but not convicted, he or she can ask the Justice Department to destroy the sample.

The Homeland Security Department — the federal agency charged with policing immigration — supports the new rule.

"DNA is a proven law-enforcement tool," DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said.

The rule would not allow for DNA samples to be collected from immigrants who are legally in the United States or those being processed for admission, unless the person was arrested.

The proposed rule is being published in the Federal Register. That will be followed by a 30-day comment period.


It has begun.  Also this is another turn of events that I had predicted years before it happened.  Mark my words, soon it'll be people just arrested and not convicted by local authorities as well.  Then it'll be every person stopped.  Soon it won't be DNA only it's going to be the whole kitten kabutle, thumb scan, DNA, biometric reading.  Then the chip will come.  Have fun sheeple, get your guns ready.

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Reply #1048 - Apr 17th, 2008 at 1:21pm
 
That's patently ridiculous.  Keeping DNA records from arrested but unconvicted individuals is a complete violation of the Constitution.  Do politicians even know what the Bill of Rights is?

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Reply #1049 - Apr 17th, 2008 at 1:51pm
 
I'll give her a DNA sample...right in the eye!


...seriously, who didn't see this coming?
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