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Title: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jun 30th, 2006 at 1:39pm
Since talk of this region is kinda dispersed throughout the forum, heres a thread for anything related to the current troubles in the Middle East.
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&hn=34399 Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus Quote:
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jun 30th, 2006 at 1:40pm
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19645805-2703,00.html
Oh and this one too. Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies Quote:
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jun 30th, 2006 at 3:11pm
It started out as a scuffle between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, but this is quickly turning into a full scale battle that will include Syria, and - by extension - Russia. Even though the Palestinians are the whipping boy of the Islamic Middle East, I have no doubt they're all itching for an excuse to get into a fight with Israel. Iran has no greater desire than to wipe Israel off the face of the planet.
I think we're marching quickly toward World War III. There are just too many stakeholders in the matter and too many events are lining up too quickly. I'm surprised the US, Britain, and other big countries aren't stepping in to try to slow things down a bit. Regardless of what ends up happening over there, the world's economic markets are on their toes as it is. Oil is going to sky rocket if things hit a breaking point. -b0b (...thinks we'll feel this one way or another.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jun 30th, 2006 at 4:55pm
http://www.infolive.tv/index.php?chgLang=40
This is a great site for video updates on the situation. It even shows a few of the Qassam rockets being launched. Good stuff. Now for some pictures... -b0b (...loves that mid-launch artillery picture.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jun 30th, 2006 at 5:51pm
Wait...are you telling me that there ISN'T peace in the Middle East?
X (Shocked...SHOCKED I SAY!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jun 30th, 2006 at 11:35pm
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1EE826C3-F1DE-4527-956F-B00266ED3E0A.htm
Second soldier kidnapped. Quote:
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 1st, 2006 at 11:35am
If that soldier dies, his life will be paid for with the blood of a hundred Al Aqsa militants.
-b0b (...doesn't get it.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 4th, 2006 at 2:20pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060704/ts_nm/mideast1_dc_2;_ylt=ArddugNUo2ZWnDx12vrFmxQUvioA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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Goodness, does anyone else still believe this abduction was not a setup? |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by texfrost on Jul 4th, 2006 at 2:35pm
I hope I don't wind up joining the Military before I plan on it and Involuntarily...that would just suck.
And speaking of Military, there was a guy today of my road race who carried a POW/MIA flag the whole 5 miles of the race. I hope it made people realize what today is about and how many gave up thier lives earning and protecting not only our freedom, but the freedom of many other countries as well. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 4th, 2006 at 6:01pm MediaMaster wrote on Jul 4th, 2006 at 2:20pm:
The PA has openly admitted to capturing Corporal Shalit. That fact is undisputed. If this was a "setup," the PA is just as much responsible for the conspiracy as Israel is. -b0b (...sees both sides of the coin.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 6th, 2006 at 5:10pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060706/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians_494;_ylt=Ah9pT.4t6i2X.z.keqPEFvcUvioA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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Maybe thats because its a civilian population standing up against an invasion, regardless of whether or not their government kidnapped a soldier. And of course anyone fighting American or Israeli aggression is a terrorist. Insanity, pure instanity. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 9th, 2006 at 2:31pm
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/732528.html
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The detention of Hamas parliamentarians in the early hours of Thursday morning had been planned several weeks ago and received approval from Mazuz on Wednesday. The same day, Shin Bet Director Yuval Diskin presented Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with the list of Hamas officials slated for detention. So i guess Isreal had this in mind for a while eh? |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 9th, 2006 at 4:30pm
Several weeks? As in, before the kidnapping of Cpl. Shalit? I'd love to see some justification for that statement.
-b0b (...is just saying...) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 9th, 2006 at 4:43pm
yes that article was written on june 30th. Its an Israeli newspaper, I assume they got their info same as the press normally does.
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Maybe they timed the arrests they were planning to cooincide with the begining of operations in Gaza |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 12th, 2006 at 11:31am
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A5A917D4-76E6-46F6-A92B-7250249FD172.htm
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This is getting out of hand, things are only going to get worse. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 13th, 2006 at 1:42am
The Israeli's just launched an airstrike on the Palestinian foreign ministry, following their strike on Lebanon after Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers. Israel has called up the military reserves.
Lebanon and Israel are both referring to one another's actions as "acts of war." The Palestinians and their Arab backers are on two sides of Israel, with Hezbollah and their Lebanese and Iranian supporters on another. This could get messy really, really fast. -b0b (...get some!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 13th, 2006 at 12:43pm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885988710&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Man... This is seriously going to erupt into World War III if someone doesnt step in, or I don't even know what. There is too much escalation, and its only a matter of time before Israel takes on Syria too. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jul 13th, 2006 at 2:16pm
The headline news said something about troops being called to Syria but I wasn't paying enough attention to hear who's troops those were. Honestly, I hope Isreal gets it's ass kicked. If this many countries are against them, there must be a legitimate reason.
Another option would be to wipe out the entire middle east and then divide it among all countries left standing to make them happy and not attack us for being meanies. :-X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 13th, 2006 at 2:33pm
Just wait until Israel and Iran go at it. That'll be the end of the Middle East as we know it.
-b0b (...thinks the whole place will get paved.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jul 13th, 2006 at 3:55pm
I haven't heard of Hezbollah in the past. If anyone knows about them could you give me a quick background of this group?
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 13th, 2006 at 4:10pm
Its an Islamic militant and political group in Lebanon. It was started in the 80's or so to combat Israel's occuupation. They were backed financially and logistically by Syria and Iran, and grew like crazy. They carried out attacks against Israel, but also funded schools, and other social stuff like that, and became a pretty big political party.
After Israel left Lebanon in 2000, they were called upon to disarm by the world. But when the intifada broke out again, they rearmed and now they are doing their thang in Lebenon. Syria and Iran still back them, which is why these attacks carried out by Israel are going to call some major problems if they continue. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 13th, 2006 at 9:26pm
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/738315.html
Iran warns of 'fierce response' should Israel strike at Syria Quote:
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by The_Fat_Man on Jul 13th, 2006 at 11:29pm
I hope Israel gets its ass kicked too.
I mean correct me if I'm wrong but for being the "Land of Peace" they are by far the one country in the world that is not afraid to let the shit hit the fan over the smallest of things. They have a dangerous temper and they are going to get their country wiped out. Someone needs to put them in their place and tell them to calm the fuck down. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Cait on Jul 14th, 2006 at 12:12am
my friends and i were just having this discussion this evening.
and when my friends Nassau and Paige (both victims of hippie parents) were yelling about it (and agreeing)--- I just decided I'm sick of the middle-east and their drama. America should just stay out of it---let them fight for long periods of time and then when all sides are weakened---go in, take over and have one sweet ass vacation colony. no? Cait (....super tired---was forced to watch the first part of "10th Kingdom") |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jul 14th, 2006 at 5:34pm
I was watching Hardball with Chris Mathews and the Syrian ambassador to the U.S. was interviewed. He said that Isreal is making such a big deal about two soldiers when in reality there are 9,000 captured Palastinians in Isreal. Its remarkable how different each side views these situations and it makes me think twice about who the real "wrong-doer" is.
I remember when Briney did a breakdown of the U.S. budget and it lead me to wonder how much of that budget is donated to Isreal for weapons and other aid... hmmmm |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 14th, 2006 at 5:59pm
Theyve gotten 140 billion from the US since its formationi n 47. And thats reported. So who knows. I saw a similiar interview on CNN. First he interviewed the Israeli ambassador to the US, and he was ever so polite. Then he interviewed the Syrian Ambassador and the interviewer was cutting him off, and putting words in his mouth. It was so nuts. I can only imagine how badly foxnews was spinning it.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 15th, 2006 at 1:06pm
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3275886,00.html
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If this article is accurate, then we are in some serious trouble here. Cause if Syria is attacked, Iran will be shortly behind. If Israel gets in a pickle, how long will it be before the US becomes involved. Interesting that the US just send 2 carrier groups to the region a month ago. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 16th, 2006 at 12:29am
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19806745-1702,00.html
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Again the US shows its true colors. Whenever there are civil rights violations or violence, the US is quick to condemn. You bring in Israel, and the US suddenly vetos any resolution that would ever convict Israel. They shouldnt be immune. If they are going to wage war, they should be held accountable. They arent even talking about the kidnapped soldiers anymore, Israeli officials are saying they wont stop until Hizbullah is disarmed. And I dont think they are just gonna stop with Lebanon. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 16th, 2006 at 4:02am
I was just heading to bed and then this happened:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/16/mideast/index.html Hezbollah rockets kill 8 in Haifa Yep, thats not going to bode well for tomm. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 17th, 2006 at 12:13pm
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, as is Hamas. They're responsible for the deaths of countless foreigners, including peace-time soldier assasinations (Col. Will Higgins and Bill Buckley come to mind), diplomat killings (journalists Terry Anderson and John McCarthy), religious envoys (Terry Waite and Brian Keenan), and others.
Have you forgotten about the 1983 bombing of the US embassy in Beirut? It killed 63. How about the truck bombing later that same year that killed 241 sleeping marines? The next year, they bombed the new US embassy and killed 22. How about the 1985 hijacking of TWA Flight 847? How about the Israeli embassy attack in Argentina in '90? Shall I keep going, or have I made my point? The US has not and should not stand up for a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. I don't care how much "good" they've done in their own communities, and I don't care if they call themselves a "political party." They are cold blooded murderers and Israel has every right to wipe them off the face of the planet. Personally, I'm glad the United States is backing Israel in destroying Hezbollah. They're nothing more than a pathetic façade for a group of militant murderers. -b0b (...seems to be the lone man out on this one.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 17th, 2006 at 2:17pm
The group was only formed in reaction to Israel's illegal occupation of Lebanon. In my eyes they are using unconventional means. I do not agree with how they do it, or who they target, but I guess in your eyes, only Israel has the right to bomb population centers.
Apartment complexes in southern Beirut. I don't think its fair to justify the annihilation of a group of people without understanding where they are coming from. In my eyes both Hezbullah and Israel have done wrong, I'm just trying to show that Israel is not a shining beacon of light that only does good in the middle east. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jul 17th, 2006 at 3:25pm
Isreal is bombing bridges and civilian airports traping all visitors in Beirut. I saw a headline that said seven Canadians were killed by Israeli airstrikes.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 18th, 2006 at 3:39pm |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 23rd, 2006 at 1:33pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060723/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflict_060723141428;_ylt=AlPKn8JcNGzufPBvSla4JWgUvioA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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In other news, Israel is building a massive invasion force on the Lebanese border. Its really gonna go down like this, its unbelievable. If Syria and Iran actually follow through with this, Syria, Iran, Israel, and Lebanon will be in a shooting war, and with Iraq in the middle, its only a matter of time we get involved. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 23rd, 2006 at 1:49pm
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/07/21/MIDEAST.TMP
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So just put a couple troops across the border into Lebanon, get some killed and 2 kidnapped, and then initiate the long planned attack. Good goin, Israel, hope everything works out swimmingly for you. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jul 23rd, 2006 at 4:04pm
I just read an article that said Iran wants to boycott all American products....
WHAT AMERICAN PRODUCTS?! X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 23rd, 2006 at 5:08pm
You've got a point there.
-b0b (...cigarettes and beer?) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Aug 1st, 2006 at 3:36pm
http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/afx/2006/08/01/afx2918966.html
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Aug 2nd, 2006 at 9:49pm |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Aug 3rd, 2006 at 12:14am
It'd be nice to see unbiased coverage of the towns from the Israeli side that've been bombarded by Hezbollah rocket fire for the past couple of years.
-b0b (...thinks Israel needs to sit the heck down.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Aug 3rd, 2006 at 5:00pm It is clear who side Drudge and half of America is on. No reference to this eh Matt? Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said the war had killed 900 people in Lebanon and wounded 3,000, with a third of the casualties children under 12. For a nation that abhors any harm to children, the United States better wake the hell up and tell Israel to stop its attacks. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Aug 3rd, 2006 at 5:09pm
It's no more biased than the video you posted yesterday. Let's face it, the media is either on Israel's side or Lebanon's side, and nobody is providing fair, unbiased coverage of the matter.
-b0b (...thinks both sides need to back off, but knows they won't.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Aug 3rd, 2006 at 11:55pm
Ya I know what you mean man, its really frustrating to see bias in any form :(
Its interesting that both sides have put forward peace offers that require the other to stop firing 1st, but it doesnt look like either side is going to take the first step any time soon. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Aug 4th, 2006 at 9:23am |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Aug 4th, 2006 at 10:38am
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Anyone can learn about the ways of global politcs by watching elemenary/middle school kids. You have the bullies, you have the mean people, you have the little guy who wants to be cool and popular, etc. No matter if the leader is male or female it always seems as if we're concerned with who has the biggest penis.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Aug 7th, 2006 at 12:25am
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/06/rs.01.html
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this comes from "military analysts" who could be anyone... so this is not reliable. I posted it cause i was wondering why the heck there are still so many rockets coming down on Israel. Israeli intelligence is always top notch. They can take out a Hamas leader while he drives down a road, but not find large semi-sized launchers? they are mobile, and a whore to keep finding, but the rocket attacks are increasing, not diminishing. Israel has constant drone surveillance, so I am just a bit confused. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Aug 7th, 2006 at 8:20am
Many of the rockets being fired are shoulder mounted, not mobile artillery.
-b0b (...) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Aug 7th, 2006 at 9:49am
An Israeli building in Haifa was hit by Hezzbollah rocket fire recently. Here's the video...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2810053861134883693 -b0b (...would like to see this video on major news outlets.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Aug 7th, 2006 at 11:59am
shoulder mounted rockets that go 20+ kilometers? the Katyusha rockets are mounted on trucks.
And they use this other soviet rocket launcher |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Aug 27th, 2006 at 1:25pm Quote:
-b0b (...thinks Kofi Annan is gonna bust open a whole can of resolutions on Iran. OH NOS!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Sep 19th, 2006 at 8:52am Quote:
On a mostly-unrelated side note, I wonder how Hugo Chavez's appreciation for Iranian Muslim Clerics is going in heavily Catholic Venezuela now that many Muslims are calling for the Pope to be killed? Personally, I am growing tired of the muslim sense of "outrage". I grow even more tired of their expressions of outrage. What kind of belief system justifies lying in wait for a nun (who dedicated her entire life to helping anyone in Somalia) before shooting her in the back as she walked home to get some sleep? What kind of religion thinks such an action is a "justified" response to the out-of-context quotation of one German guy? I don't care what name you slap on that mindset - if someone holds such an opinion, they should do us all a favor and jump off a frickin' cliff. There are some people the world simply does not need, and let's face it - anyone with that mindset is one of them. This brings me to another question - where are all of the "mainstream muslims" during all of this? The media constantly expounds the difference between "mainstream muslims" and "militant muslims," but I never hear regular Joe Blow muslims telling their militant cousins to sit down and shut up. On the flip side, any time a Christian goes nuts and does something retarded, we're the first in line to distance ourselves from them and explain why they don't represent Christianity. Heck, we use it as an evangelistic opportunity when we can. But muslims? Where's the outrage? -b0b (...will probably get in trouble for this.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Sep 19th, 2006 at 11:47am
Bob you have to stop stealing my post he he.
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I also talked about the "where's the cry from the good Muslims". Well here's one...http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailheadlines.asp?fileid=20060919.@01&irec=0 . But where are America's Muslims? I was also think about that poor nun. I wonder what would happen if that nun was Mother Teresa, alive of course. Do you think that the entire world would be outraged? I know I would be and I'm not even Catholic anymore. She was almost as popular, if not more, than the Pople himself. If this nun had been as famous as her...I'd be more afraid for Muslims, esp those here in the US. Yet since it's "just a nun" we go "Ha ha those CRAZY Muslims" and continue to just get reemed in the butt by them. This is a reason why I would never become a Muslim. They claim a religion of peace and the quest for god. Yet violence, the call for violence, bloodshed, and just negative images are shown. At least with Christians, you see...going to Africa to help combat the UN and actually help to treat dying Africans without tainted "vaccines, you see them get arrested in China for spreading their belief. Remember, I think it was in Afganistan, I may be wrong there. But a man converted from Islam to Christianity...and they wanted to kill him! Like hold a trial and legally kill him. What happens when it's vice versa for Christians? Well they are either prayed about, shunned (although I hope not as much), and they are reasoned with. However, we're not Satanists who kill people who leave their belief system...and that's the kind of behavior I see from Muslims. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Oct 21st, 2006 at 5:07pm
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2547.htm#001
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If this is accurate, and who even knows, this is terrible and the fact it is not reported scares me. I'm looking for more info on this. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Oct 23rd, 2006 at 8:40am
The only people reporting it are questionable indy media outlets. I'd like to see some pictures.
-b0b (...wonders if Google Earth would be updated?) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Oct 23rd, 2006 at 9:54am
If only Google earth was all hi res and kept up to date, we could check on alot of things...
someday maybe |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Oct 25th, 2006 at 3:18pm Quote:
UNFIL has recently threatened to shoot down IDF jets over Lebanon. The IDF says it will continue to do recon until UNFIL stops the Syrian/Iranian arms smuggling that the IDF is observing ($5 says UNFIL wants the recon to stop so they can avoid criticism of not stopping the smuggling). I'll bet a day's pay that this was the first step in that. The IDF was probably doing a recon over Hezbollah controlled areas. The German ship illuminates them with a radar, maybe even fire control, to let the IDF know that the vaunted UN doesn't approve. The IDF jets make a low pass at the German ship to let the UN know that they don't appreciate the UN's utter suckage. I also bet that the IDF just made a high speed pass and fired nothing. "Two shots" from "two jets" that carry a vulcan cannon sounds like "sonic boom from two jets" to me. -b0b (...could be wrong, of course.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Oct 26th, 2006 at 10:16pm Quote:
Now is this the true story or is the original? X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Oct 28th, 2006 at 9:52pm
So much for the German Chancellor saying that she didnt want German soldiers in a position that may have Israeli soldiers fighting German soldiers.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Nov 1st, 2006 at 12:37pm
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E974E7AF-BC99-4543-93FB-9A2DB5EBF417.htm
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There is a couple carrier battlegroups in the Persian Gulf right now, near the Straight of Hormuz. It would be interesting if a "stray Iranian missile" were to hit one of our ships, sending us into war, just before the election! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Nov 4th, 2006 at 9:45am Quote:
I predict a lot of SPF 5,000,000 sunblock is going to be needed in that region in the not too distant future… -b0b (...is so wrong.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Nov 14th, 2006 at 9:02am
Whenever I start to get a bit weary of Israel's hardline policy, some piece of news comes along to erase that. Apparently, Hamas has refused to recognize Israel as a sovereign state.
There simply is no other way to survive when your neighbors don't even recognize your right to live. A major regional war is brewing over there. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061114/ts_nm/mideast_dc_138 -b0b (...would bet on it.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Nov 19th, 2006 at 4:02pm Quote:
I'm counting down the days until the Palestinians try to blow this place to smithereens... If this comes to fruition, Israel will succeed in relegating the Arab world back to pre-20th century insignificance. -b0b (...will be watching this one closely.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Nov 21st, 2006 at 9:02am Quote:
-b0b (...rolls his eyes.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 4th, 2006 at 3:12pm
Check out Rumsfeld's parting memo on the Iraq question...
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Emphasis mine. It's quite an intriguing suggestion. I have a feeling the Sunni's would balk at such a solution, especially considering their numbers, but it's a progressive solution nonetheless. I have to say, though, that Rumsfeld's memo was about as clear as mud. It reads like a laundry list of every conceivable option so Rummy can say "told you so" no matter what happens. Good riddance. -b0b (...is enjoying some smooth, creamy hot chocolate.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Dec 4th, 2006 at 5:00pm
That has been PNAC's plan since day one. You can read that in their documents. You have to give them credit for being able to carry out plans...even diabolical ones!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 26th, 2006 at 2:13pm Quote:
It's on. Christians versus Muslims in the world series of love! From a purely military standpoint, the Muslims are poised for a huge coup. -b0b (...knows there's more the story than mere military might.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 26th, 2006 at 2:27pm Quote:
-b0b (...is watching this one closely!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 26th, 2006 at 2:43pm
Ethiopia – The Roaring Lion of Judah!
Ethiopia is one of the world’s oldest Judeo-Christian civilizations on the face of the planet. Of course, it just so happens to be surrounded by two of the world’s most psychotic radical Muslim hellholes – Sudan and Somalia. Ethiopia is known in the Bible as the Land of the Queen of Sheba, shown above with King Solomon. And once ruled by the legendary Haile Selassie, believed to be the descendant of Solomon. Many believe that the Ark of the Covenant is held in Ethiopia. How does this wrap into your end-time theories, Stewie? -b0b (...will look into it more tomorrow night.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 26th, 2006 at 2:44pm
Looks like Ethiopia has got them on the run.
www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/12/26/somalia.ap/index.html Quote:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6209643.stm Quote:
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Dec 26th, 2006 at 9:19pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061226/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_somalia
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 26th, 2006 at 9:57pm
Wow, that didn't take long, huh?
-b0b (...sighs.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 29th, 2006 at 8:30am
Breaking: Bad noose for Saddam! (Get it? Ha!) Saddam will be hung within 36 hours, so sayeth MSNBC. I'll post an article when I find one.
-b0b (...thinks Saddam is at the end of his rope.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 29th, 2006 at 8:39am Quote:
-b0b (...would drink an IBC cream soda to that.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 29th, 2006 at 1:03pm
Breaking: Saddam was handed over to Iraqi authorities for execution.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/index.html -b0b (...dead man walking.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Dec 29th, 2006 at 7:41pm
Saddam will hang between 930 and 10pm ET.
Pray for him, hopefully he can to come to know Christ before the end. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Dec 29th, 2006 at 10:32pm
It's done then. I hope that video footage of the execution stays hidden.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 11th, 2007 at 2:59pm
I thought we were ticked off at Bin Ladden's group going after our embassies...I guess it's our turn now!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 11th, 2007 at 10:22pm
Iran can suck it.
-b0b (...is quaint.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jan 12th, 2007 at 2:30pm
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=38646
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 12th, 2007 at 2:48pm
Kill one terrorist and take out 100 civis...sounds like a good average for our government.
terrorism - violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups (US government) in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands (stop threatening to attack us). X (Yeaaa...definitions are fun...oh wait that definition didn't say...but only for dark skinned people not from America...) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jan 12th, 2007 at 3:21pm
yea its ok cause they are the "other"
we don't know them, we don't care about their culture, our way is right. sigh |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jan 15th, 2007 at 7:45pm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=AL-20070115&articleId=4459
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 16th, 2007 at 12:24pm
I know I should be mad...but hey...isn't this truly the American way?!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 16th, 2007 at 12:41pm
I'm surprised F-14's are even considered airworthy these days. Talk about old school!
-b0b (...wonders if bi-planes are still in fashion in Iran?) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 19th, 2007 at 5:45pm
Again take with a grain of salt...but if true...major scarryness!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 22nd, 2007 at 3:35pm
I was just reading a story today that Terran thinks it could destroy Israel with one nuke. While that is as ludacris as match being able to melt steel (although with 9/11 I guess that happend ;) ) I was just thinking about some scenarios.
If Iran was to attack say Jerusalem wouldn't the ramifications of attacking a holy site by the three main religions of the world bring about the quickest end to Iran's existence? It seems that since the mixing of Israel and Palestine's people in locations would cause for the Muslim world to tread carefully when planning to attack Israel. Does anyone have any response to this? Basically my question is since Israel shares it's territory with Muslim people and holy sites deemed so by both sides, wouldn't that make it less of a target from Muslim states? X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jan 22nd, 2007 at 6:55pm
Ya i saw that article too, it was written by an Israeli think tank type person. I think he is just crying wolf, cause Iran would not nuke Jerusalem. Or could nuke Jerusalem. They are so far off of having the bomb, or even trying to get the bomb, that this is ludicrous. This guy is just an alarmist. Even if (big if) Iran had a nuclear weapon it would not be big (Israel's nukes are not very large either) enough to take out more than the center of a city. Israel is about 40ish miles wide and 230ish miles long, lots of space.
Tel Aviv is 30 miles from Jerusalem, and thats not enough even for the largest US hydrogen bomb to reach both cities. Pure alarmist BS. EDIT: ya i didn't answer the question really. Being the 3rd holiest site in Islam, i would say Jerusalem won't be getting an atomic bomb anytime soon. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 13th, 2007 at 11:12am Quote:
I wonder what we had to give them this time that wasn't reported? -b0b (...word.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Feb 13th, 2007 at 12:14pm
I'm more scared about what we had to give CHINA. They were really a main instrument in dealing with NK.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 13th, 2007 at 1:37pm
That's very true. It looks like China was the main player in convincing NK to step down.
-b0b (...ponders.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 14th, 2007 at 9:40am Quote:
If memory serves me correctly, Steyr offered to stop the sale if the United States government allowed them to sell their other products here in America. The government told them to pound sand. Essentially, they would rather have Iran provide the militants with .50's than give you and I the opportunity to own a Steyr Aug. -b0b (...isn't clearing Steyr of guilt by any means.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 19th, 2007 at 10:35am Quote:
Here's another case of "Sudden Jihad Syndrome" that came out the other day. Quote:
...and here's another one from this weekend. Quote:
-b0b (...points to the destruction of America.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Feb 21st, 2007 at 2:37pm
Hmmm doo dee doo dee dooo...what?! NO REASON!!!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 21st, 2007 at 3:33pm
Things are coming to a head.
-b0b (...boom.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 1st, 2007 at 9:24am
I realize this isn't a "conflict" in the truest sense, but I thought this was the best place to put it.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 1st, 2007 at 11:24am
Here's another take on the story...
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-b0b (...wow.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 14th, 2007 at 1:38pm Quote:
Boo. Freakin'. Hoo. I swear, it seems like there is a new headline every day that reads: <Some group of Muslims> are OUTRAGED over <some inconsequential crap>! I think we need to send Iran a letter expressing our... ahem... outrage. Quote:
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 28th, 2007 at 12:00pm Quote:
It looks like things are really heating up again! -b0b (...bought more ammunition this weekend.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Mar 28th, 2007 at 12:03pm
vandetta vandetta!
maybe next time we should consider helping another country... oh well, more enemies the better....amiright?! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Mar 28th, 2007 at 1:23pm
Man its getting messy over there.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 28th, 2007 at 1:36pm MediaMaster wrote on Mar 28th, 2007 at 1:23pm:
No kidding. Did you see the post about the "Great Poo Flood of 2006" in the other thread? -b0b (...chuckles.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Mar 28th, 2007 at 1:57pm
Poo jokes are fun! haha
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Mar 28th, 2007 at 2:18pm
jokes! ... i get jokes, they're funny
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 31st, 2007 at 10:04am Quote:
It looks like this is turning into one heck of a game of brinkmanship... -b0b (...thinks it might be time to unleash Margaret Thatcher's Black Knights.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 31st, 2007 at 11:49am
Wow obviously the guy with the sign doesn't understand the word "aggressors" and the underlying word of "intrusion". Whether a mistake or even on purpose just crossing the boarder into another country doesn't count as spying. If they had a nuke or explosive then I could understand that more...but come on man...do some of your own thinking...oh wait I forgot...they're Muslim theocratics they let the state do their thinking and blame everything on their religion!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 31st, 2007 at 11:58am
Ain't that the truth.
-b0b (...w0rd up, yo.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Apr 3rd, 2007 at 10:40pm
What would you call a country who supports a group of foreign troops to go into another country and attack the military occupying there? Terrorists is the right answer. And if you think the following article is about Iran sending troops into Iraq to attack American troops....you're completely backwards!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Apr 4th, 2007 at 1:16pm Quote:
-b0b (...the end?) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Apr 4th, 2007 at 1:29pm
(...the end?)
or just the beginning! duhn duhhhh |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Apr 4th, 2007 at 1:46pm
I want to know why they made them dress up in track suits!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Apr 17th, 2007 at 4:46pm
The cat's out of the bag now and the clock is ticking!
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Word. -b0b (...word to your mother.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Apr 18th, 2007 at 6:41am Quote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ...HAHAHAHAHHA! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on May 8th, 2007 at 8:38am Quote:
Six men attacking an Army base? What am I missing here? Besides, AK's aren't legal in NJ. How would terrorists buy them?! Are you telling me gun control doesn't stop terrorists from acquiring "assault weapons"? Outrage! -b0b (...snickers.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on May 15th, 2007 at 11:30am Quote:
This could get really, really bad in a hurry! Pakistan has nukes, and there is no telling what a radical Islamic government would do with nuclear weapons. Israel could definitely be a target! -b0b (...tightens his tin foil cap.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on May 15th, 2007 at 2:27pm
it is very sad yes, but they will only have peace when one side is completly wiped out.
...but then again they will probably just go for us capitalist pig-dogs after that. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on May 17th, 2007 at 3:14am Quote:
This is an amazing article...I see no other news agencies reporting it though. This would be like members of the UN going to Africa and giving the women injections laced with infertility drugs...oh wait that happened. Still this is not a good thing. If you have humanitarian orgs trying to kill people...I think they need to rethink their name. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 9th, 2007 at 9:26am Quote:
I think this is more justification than we had for Iraq. Watch out, Iran, Bush still has two years left! -b0b (...wow.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 10th, 2007 at 8:50am Quote:
We never took over a mosque when we were in school. -b0b (...thinks the terrorists were simply participating in "Take Your Child to Jihad" day.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jul 10th, 2007 at 1:41pm
Isn't it great though that we live in a country where we don't have to worry about the military storming in and taking us. One of my professors put it this way, "The military identifies targets and kills them, police have to think more on what to do". However, with the militarization of the police continuing I don't know if that will be true for much longer. For example, the police like to refer to anyone not police as "civilians". Guess what boys and girls...police are civilians too!
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 13th, 2007 at 3:25pm
Breaking!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Aug 7th, 2007 at 5:48pm
This is an interesting video about the creation of Israel and the BS the Palestinians (and mass media) keep spewing...
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/ It's about eight minutes long. -b0b (...found it eye opening.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Aug 7th, 2007 at 7:06pm
That was one of the best made and best presented docs I've seen on the subject. Very concise and informative. I didn't know all about the creation esp with Churchill giving 90% of the land to the Arabs in the 40s.
Very interesting. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 3rd, 2007 at 1:28pm Quote:
You can see a video of the crown here. This is pretty crazy! Once the find a red heifer (and they're trying like crazy to breed one), things are really going to heat up quickly. For those of you that follow eschatology, events are coming along at breakneck speed. Politically speaking, all Israel needs is is a conservative government and we could be a few years away from Jewish blood sacrifices on the Temple Mount. Imagine the fallout (literally) between two of the big three world religions when that happens! -b0b (...will keep an eye on this one.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Dec 3rd, 2007 at 2:07pm
I may be wrong here...but wouldn't the Jews have to rebuild the temple in order to do proper sacrifices? Wouldn't this also mean the Dome of The Rock has to be moved or torn down and the new temple rebuilt?
It's sad for me to see these Jews who think they are just getting by based on their lineage (by that I mean going to Heaven). Most Jews don't even follow the OT laws of sacrifice so that they can be made clean. E.G., no sacrificing animals, no alms giving, etc. I know that many Jews can't even tell you how to get right with God. It's a sad thing to see them not only reject Jesus but to even turn away from their own law to nothing but lineage. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 3rd, 2007 at 2:13pm
Well, they can't actually sacrifice animals to God right now because there hasn't been a purified priest in nearly two millenia. That's where the red heifer comes in. Once a perfect, unblemished red heifer is found, they can sacrifice it and use its blood to purify the priesthood. Once that's done, the Jews can start bringing their animal sacrifices to the Temple Mount the same way they did in Bible times.
I'm sure PETA is going to crap themselves when that happens. Either way, you're absolutely right. God has received His perfect sacrifice, and all of the animals in the world aren't going to appease him. -b0b (...thinks they're as legalistic as ever.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 27th, 2007 at 12:07pm Quote:
This could really destabilize Pakistan, which is the last thing we need in an already tumultuous Middle East. -b0b (...keeps his eyes on this one.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Dec 27th, 2007 at 12:20pm
A woman not covering her face? Why use a gun, stone her!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Dec 27th, 2007 at 1:05pm
We go after and take down countries who don't even have WMDs or even a good military. But when it comes to helping nations that are just able to wipe us off the face of the Earth if they get in a little spat...nahh leave them alone.
Wouldn't this be a perfect time for some international body to help negotiate and find a peaceful solution to end hostilities to step in? If only the UN wasn't there just to regulate war and take out national sovereignty. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 27th, 2007 at 1:15pm X wrote on Dec 27th, 2007 at 1:05pm:
The only "international body" that is going to negotiate a peaceful solution in the Middle East is God. -b0b (...!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Dec 27th, 2007 at 1:44pm
Yes...however where you talk about the real world solution I'm talking about the fantasy world of "if everything was suppose to be the way it was without any evilness and greed" then my idea would work just fine.
.... X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 27th, 2007 at 1:51pm
Yeah, and gumdrop fairies would fly out of Spanky's butt when he farted.
-b0b (...or something.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Dec 27th, 2007 at 2:02pm
Whoa, when the hell did I come to play in this subject.
And that is a fantasy world, in the real world bob has stuffed all those fairies in his pooper and there isn't much chance of them getting out anytime soon. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Dec 27th, 2007 at 2:06pm
Ohhhh! THOSE kind of fairies...I thought we were talking about the non-magical kind!
:P X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 10th, 2008 at 1:56pm Quote:
After the Hormuz incident, I think Bush is looking for any excuse to send our soldiers next door. If that happens, the existing Middle East mess is going to look like a schoolyard rumble by comparison. He's only got a year left and you know he wants to take out Iran, so now is the time. On the other hand, Iran seems to be doing everything in their power to get the war started, too. The common folk in Iran aren't very fond of the current regime and the pressure is building to remove them from power. The only way for Ahmadinejad and the religious rulers to divert that pressure away from them is to give the people an outside enemy. Guess who that is? I hope they don't take the first shot. It wouldn't be very prudent to start shooting first. They are already fighting a proxy war in Iraq, but with a blatant and overt action against the US, Bush would pretty much have free reign to do as he sees fit. Even the most ardent hippies would have a hard time complaining about US involvement in Iran if the Iranian government attacks first. -b0b (...so much for unilateralism.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Jan 10th, 2008 at 2:14pm
Nothing brings people together like a common enemy. (wes' mom anyone?)
I think we should just stop letting bush spend money...not fire him, just take his ability to spend money. The problem will correct itself. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 10th, 2008 at 2:37pm
Ya Iran has 2 speed boats that are in sight of US warships and Bush is ready to call it an attack. Let's see how we'd like it if China parked a huge Navy just outside our coastal waters.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 10th, 2008 at 3:05pm X wrote on Jan 10th, 2008 at 2:37pm:
No offense, but that's patently false. What happened in the Straights was far more than "two speed boats in sight of US warships." Have you watched the video? The boats were weaving back and forth less than 200 yards from multiple US warships, dropping unidentified packages into the water and threatening to blow the ships up. The fact the Navy didn't open fire just blows my mind. Have you already forgotten about the USS Cole? -b0b (...thinks we still owe Iran for '79.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jan 15th, 2008 at 12:54pm
Did you hear the audio?
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Jan 15th, 2008 at 1:01pm
Would it have helped any? Unless bob or you knows arabic (or whichever dialect they feel like using this week) you are trusting some one else to translate what they are saying.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 15th, 2008 at 2:41pm
Ya look at all those great Bin Laden videos that come out and we find out 6 months later...ya...that's not what he said at all.
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 15th, 2008 at 3:44pm
First of all, they aren't speaking Arabic, they're speaking Farsi. Iran is a Persian nation and they still speak a modern dialect of the Persian language (Dari).
Second, there are enough Farsi speakers out there to have called BS if the US translation was completely off the mark. I encourage you to find such a person. -b0b (...Occam's Razor, folks.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Jan 15th, 2008 at 3:56pm
Time for me to just assume some language I didn't know was arabic instead of saying crazy made up space language and move on to another subject: 7 minutes.
Time for bob to wikipedia and google his way to finding what the correct language in hopes of sounding smrt (yes intentional, nazi): 2 hours 43 minutes. Now how do I send a kick in the nuts through the mail? |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jan 15th, 2008 at 5:36pm
Didn't the navy say that the transmission might have come from a ham radio from somewhere else and not the boats?
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Jan 16th, 2008 at 8:21am
Radios aren't made of ham!
...had to post something. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 16th, 2008 at 8:32am spanky wrote on Jan 15th, 2008 at 3:56pm:
You forgot to capitalize Nazi. -b0b (...runs away.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 16th, 2008 at 8:35am MediaMaster wrote on Jan 15th, 2008 at 5:36pm:
I didn't read that, although I suppose it is possible (no matter how unlikely.) Regardless of where the transmission came from, the people on those boats are damn lucky they aren't sleeping with the fishes right now. Getting that close to a warship in an already precarious situation is just retarded. Besides, what is the likelihood that somebody made a radio transmission with such an ominous transmission at the exact same time that boats were pulling their shenanigans? I've got a better chance of getting Wes's Mom pregnant from another state. -b0b (...swim, boys, swim!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jan 16th, 2008 at 1:42pm Quote:
Well then I guess it's pretty likely seeing as Wes' mom is the size of many states. X (Misses Wes) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Jan 16th, 2008 at 2:08pm
You would have thought we would have lost interest in mocking wes' mom by now since wes is gone.
...but then again they thought the titanic was unsinkable and look how that turned out. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jan 16th, 2008 at 3:15pm spanky wrote on Jan 16th, 2008 at 2:08pm:
Considering the topic, that was an incredibly apt analogy. Bravo! -b0b (...have a Capri Sun, you deserve it!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by AlexZello on Feb 16th, 2008 at 2:54pm
What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think? uh, here's the site in question: Middle East conflict
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Feb 16th, 2008 at 6:54pm
I give up...who are you?
Are you friends with briney? If so I am sorry, he most likely asked to 'draw' you. We currently have a class action lawsuit going against him but it isn't working. In closing, bob is a homo. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 16th, 2008 at 7:15pm
Hello, Alex, and welcome to the board. :)
Shoher is definitely a neo-conservative. Although I don't necessarily disagree with his views on Israel retaking the entirety of the promised land, I'm not sure that I agree with his proposed methods. I've downloaded his book, so I'll take a look at it before passing judgment. The Middle East situation is incredibly complex, and a handful of talking points in the media is not much to judge a man by. Again, welcome aboard! -b0b (...is hijacking somebody's wireless service.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 19th, 2008 at 10:51am Quote:
Alright! Now Pakistan has an America-hating, pro-Taliban government with nukes! Ain't that special! -b0b (...buy guns, buy gold!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Feb 19th, 2008 at 11:14am
Me: What are we going to do?
Bush: Same thing I do every night spanky. Try to take over the world! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Feb 19th, 2008 at 11:25am Quote:
So basically they've become just like every other country we've meddled in the affairs of. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Feb 19th, 2008 at 12:40pm
Shhh stewie!
If you keep saying stuff like that people are going to start thinking some of this might be our fault... |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 19th, 2008 at 12:50pm
I think we all need to put our heads in the sand.
-b0b (...head in the sand, head in the sand!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Feb 19th, 2008 at 3:32pm
Wait, if I bury your head in the sand...who is going to be left to bury mine?!?!
...flawed logic! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 25th, 2008 at 12:40pm Quote:
Bahaha, they blocked YouTube! There will be rioting in the streets! The rivers will run red with the blood of Pakistan's network engineers. -b0b (...should find the video in question.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 27th, 2008 at 9:56am
I'm wondering what you guys think of this little blurb...
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Feb 27th, 2008 at 12:26pm
Can we just sell missiles to both sides?
Help with that pesky little deficit thing we have going on. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Feb 27th, 2008 at 1:21pm Quote:
What you mean do what we've been doing for the last 40 years? X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 27th, 2008 at 2:52pm
Free missiles for EVERYONE!
-b0b (...best. Idea. Ever.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Feb 27th, 2008 at 3:21pm
If only everyone loved playing with tubular objects as much as jim.
Zing! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Feb 27th, 2008 at 3:48pm
It worked for Mario. He was always playing with tubes, and look at how good he ended up. He got friggin' loaded and got the princess.
-b0b (...sorry, Mario, but the princess is in another castle.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 6th, 2008 at 1:09pm Quote:
What was that sound? Was that the sound of a can of whoop-ass being opened? Yes, I think it was! This is going to leave a mark. -b0b (...bets it won't buff right out.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 14th, 2008 at 9:00am Quote:
Wow, this guy is threatening to turn the 2008 presidential elections into the 2003 California gubernatorial elections. What's next, a pr0n-star announcing their candidacy? -b0b (...wonders if Arianna Huffington will jump back into the fray?) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 17th, 2008 at 2:35pm Quote:
Wow, I wonder how the UN will respond to this? Maybe if they really get whipped up in a fury, they'll send the Serbs a harshly worded letter. -b0b (...oh noes!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 17th, 2008 at 2:48pm
Woa now...let's not get out of hand here. For the UN to send a harshly worded letter they'd have to come into work, park illegally, find out what the heck has happened in the world, then they would have to appoint people to become a choosing committee, then they would have to filibuster until Kosovo becomes the supreme power of the world.
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 31st, 2008 at 9:27am Quote:
It's interesting that Catholicism, a single sect of Christianity, is comparing itself to the totality of Islam. You'd think they would just break down Islam into it's varying factions (Sunni, Shiite, etc.) and still claim they were the biggest bad-asses on the street. -b0b (...never understood the Catholic church.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Mar 31st, 2008 at 10:33am Quote:
Seems like the other Christians don't count to him. Ha! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 31st, 2008 at 12:05pm
Well this Pope has redeclared that if you aren't Catholic then you aren't a Christian and therefore aren't saved. Also, I don't know how you would even count these numbers accurately. Also, no one can know another's hearth, how do you know that these people weren't raised Catholic and just identify themselves as such. When really all they are are "well if you're good you'll get in" type of fake Christians?
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Mar 31st, 2008 at 12:13pm Quote:
Whaaat now? |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 31st, 2008 at 12:36pm
THE POPE HAS REDECLARED THAT IF YOU AREN'T CATHOLIC THEN YOU AREN'T SAVED!
X (Wow...open your ears!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 31st, 2008 at 12:50pm
Here - I found ya the links:
http://www.zimbio.com/The+Roman+Catholic+Church/articles/40/Pope+Declares+Other+Christians+Not+True+Church This is his first statement http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288841,00.html This is him trying to back peddle just a bit. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Mar 31st, 2008 at 1:05pm
You should know by now that my "what now?" is shorthand for LINK ME!
wank. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Mar 31st, 2008 at 1:10pm Quote:
Quote:
... Theres nothing in my Bible that says we need a pope. Thanks catholicism for adding to the inspired Word of God. Thanks for trying to add to what Jesus did on the cross for remission of sins, thereby saying theres more needed that what Jesus did. Thanks for moving the sabbath to Sunday, in honor of the sun god apollo. Real nice Emperor Constantine... real nice. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 31st, 2008 at 2:17pm
That's why, back in the day, you had people like Martin Luther and he Thesises. Today we get morons like Hagee just saying random anti-Catholic things. Luther didn't nail his manuscript to the door as most people think, because he wasn't trying to tear down the church or split it up. His movement did bring us to the Solo Scriptura (only Scripture) that was present after the death of the apostles and before the rise of Roman Catholicism.
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 31st, 2008 at 2:42pm MediaMaster wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 1:10pm:
Buuuuut he's infallible! How dare you impugn his self-righteous declarations! -b0b (...at leas he gets a cool hat.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Mar 31st, 2008 at 3:32pm
I thought that the person who had the magical pope hat was God?
This religion stuff is all confusing...if only someone would write it down in a book for me to read. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 31st, 2008 at 3:51pm
I prefer simple, easy-to-understand instructional videos.
-b0b (...small words, please!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Mar 31st, 2008 at 5:53pm
Woot, books on tape!
Hmm, now who still has a tape player... |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 31st, 2008 at 5:58pm
They're also called audio books...so you can get them on CD now...wait...who still has a CD player?
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Mar 31st, 2008 at 6:28pm
My car does you lamer!
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Mar 31st, 2008 at 8:50pm
Yeah, he just upgraded his 8-track deck last week.
-b0b (...get both!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Mar 31st, 2008 at 9:01pm
That was after he replaced the phonograph player...it'd always skip when he hit a bump...or making out with his b/f.
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Apr 1st, 2008 at 8:28am Quote:
Why talk about yourself in the third person? ...hmm, call myself gay just to make fun of pat. Was it worth it? Yes, yes it was. |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Apr 1st, 2008 at 8:34am
Fun - and oh so true.
-b0b (...backs out of this thread slowly.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on May 20th, 2008 at 8:54am Quote:
I call BS, but nonetheless, there it is. -b0b (...thinks congress would tell him to shove it.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on May 20th, 2008 at 12:36pm Quote:
Great not only is the administration threatening Iran from time to time, but so are all Presidential candidates (except Ron Paul), but now Israel is speaking for us now. Just peachy. X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jun 12th, 2008 at 8:57am Quote:
Alright, so Hopefully, one of Mugabe's guards will just put a bullet in his skull while he's on the crapper or something. Of course, I'm guessing Mugabe is really just a figurehead for the military junta, but I could be wrong. -b0b (...free elections my butt.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jun 24th, 2008 at 10:29am Quote:
Wow, this agreement lasted a whole week! That might be a new record! They may as well just give up on the whole peace thing and wait for that "special someone" to come along and do it for them. -b0b (...is being moderately facetious.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by spanky on Jun 24th, 2008 at 2:48pm
Why stop fighting when others are still fighting...
Who can argue with that logic! It is bound to end when they all die off...right?! |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jun 24th, 2008 at 3:15pm
Not less guns, more guns!
If we can get those bastards to be a bit more accurate, their death rate will overtake their birth rate, and the problem will solve itself! -b0b (...smells a Nobel Peace Prize coming his way!) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 8th, 2008 at 8:44am
[code]TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's Revolutionary Guards have begun a military exercise and issued a warning that Israel and U.S. naval forces in the Persian Gulf would be prime targets if Iran is attacked.
The Web site of the elite Iranian force posted a statement late Monday announcing the military drill, which it said involved "missile squads," but did not say where it was taking place. Iran's guards and national army hold regular exercises two or three times a year, but the statement did not say whether this drill was one of them or if it was a special exercise. Israel's military sent warplanes over the eastern Mediterranean for a large military exercise in June that U.S. officials described as a possible rehearsal for a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, which the West fears are aimed at producing atomic weapons. The Iranian Web Site quoted guard official Ali Shirazi as saying that Israel's coastal metropolis of Tel Aviv and U.S. warships in the Gulf would be among the first targets if Iran comes under attack. "The Zionist regime is pushing the White House to prepare for a military strike on Iran," Shirazi was quoted as saying. "If such a stupidity is done by them, Tel Aviv and the U.S. naval fleet in the Persian Gulf will be the first targets which will be set on fire in Iran's crushing response."[/code] I think I just heard gas prices go up a few cents. -b0b (...groans.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jul 8th, 2008 at 11:49am
3 ways to lower gas prices.
http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentID=532689 |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 8th, 2008 at 12:30pm
I can't listen to the video at work, but I'm going to step out on a limb and guess he's talking about speculation?
-b0b (...groans.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Briney on Jul 8th, 2008 at 2:07pm
well when oil trading is 70% speculation, and goes up and down on the slightest news that "omg Israels going to attack Iran", I think there is a problem. Capitalism is great, but there has to be limits on something that has the potential to bring the world to its knees, when supplies are still ok.
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jul 8th, 2008 at 2:46pm
I have a feeling that the US is not tapping into major oil nearby so that we can be a dominanct force with oil in the future. By the time other oil reserves are dry, we won't be using oil very much. Why not be richer now?
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 8th, 2008 at 5:06pm MediaMaster wrote on Jul 8th, 2008 at 2:07pm:
The value of a barrel of oil is determined by supply and demand. When the supply is threatened and the demand continues to increase, the value increases dramatically. That's no the fault of "speculators," that's just the way a free economy functions. Sure, we don't have to like it, but trying to regulate that is a surefire way to run the economy straight into a wall. Speculation isn't just a "necessary evil," it is actually very, very important to a properly running economy. If it wasn't for the oil futures market, we'd be well and truly screwed right now. If you're interested in a more thorough post, I'll add more tomorrow upon request! -b0b (...is not a speculator, BTW.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by X on Jul 8th, 2008 at 5:27pm
And speculation really only counts for more like 30% which is still high but you'd have to stop every industry from doing stuff like that then because every stock has those people.
X |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by Stick on Jul 8th, 2008 at 5:59pm
new thread?
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Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Jul 8th, 2008 at 7:35pm
I'm game. There's a lot of random BS being spouted about speculators in the media, but speculators actually play an extraordinarily important and necessary role in the commodities market.
-b0b (...game. Set. Match.) |
Title: Re: Middle East Conflict Post by b0b on Dec 30th, 2008 at 11:32am Quote:
It's always nice to see the Middle East come together for the holidays. -b0b (...bets the fireworks are awesome.) |
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